Pierre C Belarge
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iwire said:
Are you saying that there is a single handle tie that can span 4 different breakers?
If so, I have never seen one of these before.
2008 and Multiwire Branch Circuits
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Are you saying that there is a single handle tie that can span 4 different breakers?
If so, I have never seen one of these before.
- Location
- Massachusetts
Pierre C Belarge said:
Yes .... and no.
They where Square D NQOB single pole 20s and they where linked together with a small piece of metal that fit between each breaker handle and into the holes.
The piece looked like a factory made gizmo, not a DIY thing and it seemed you could link up to 21 single pole breakers together.
But there is no common handle across the poles.
Same here, I was pretty surprised. And a bit peeved as I wanted to shut down the single two wire circuit to tap in a new floor receptacle. Instead I had to wait for lunch and shut down all four circuits.
Pierre C Belarge
Senior Member
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- Westchester County, New York
If there is a next time you are there, could you sneak a picture? I would love to see what that actually looks like.
- Location
- Massachusetts
Pierre C Belarge said:
I found them on the web
Any info I can find on them says you can use on of these to connect two single poles together.
I guess the inspector was happy to have four single poles connected together with these.
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
iwire said:I found them on the web
Any info I can find on them says you can use on of these to connect two single poles together.
I guess the inspector was happy to have four single poles connected together with these.
I have seen them also but never with 4 breakers hook to it. I would bet they modified those by cutting off a bit on each end, otherwise it won't fit. I don't think so anyways.:grin:
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- Massachusetts
Dennis Alwon said:
No cutting, at least I doubt it. The holes on Square D breaker handles do not pass all the way through so if the tie fits between 2 it will fit better more. (I think
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
iwire said:No cutting, at least I doubt it. The holes on Square D breaker handles do not pass all the way through so if the tie fits between 2 it will fit better more. (I think
You know I hate being contrary
but I just check some Sq. D breakers in my basement that have holes all the way thru. Perhaps the older ones has the holes-- not sure.
cschmid
Senior Member
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- Northern cold country
I use them and carry them in my truck..they are ok but your breakers must be tight together..so if you have extra slots in your panel door that have been removed and use the sq D plastic blanks that cover where the breaker has been removed..it makes the breakers a little loose and the handle ties get kind of loose on the fit..Not loose enough to fall out but sloopy enough..
- Location
- Wisconsin
- Occupation
- PE (Retired) - Power Systems
C3PO said:
List prices from Square D Digest
(2) QO115 = $19.70 each
(1) OO1HT = $2.50
Total list price = $41.90 for a home made 2P breaker versus a factory 2P QO215 for $44.70.
When I was selling, this list price difference of $3.20 was enough that some EC's never used a factory 2P unless a code forced them to them.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
I sure hope you don't pay those prices. I don't even charge that much for them.jim dungar said:
My local HD lists QO115's and QO215's for $7.47 and & $15.47, respectively.
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- Wisconsin
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- PE (Retired) - Power Systems
LarryFine said:
My point is that as long as there is a difference in price, I know many contractors that won't spend the extra money on 2P breakers.
And any contractor that can't buy Square D for more than 50% off list price doesn't know how to shop.
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