2013 GE AFCI Breaker VS 2023 GE AFCI/GFCI Combo

[Ravenvalor]

How much GFCI protection is inherent in a 2013 AFCI Breaker compared to todays AFCI/GFCI breaker? Customer has an outside recessed wall light that has the glass behind the louver removed.

 

[ptonsparky]

Ten years is a lot of time in the that style of breaker.
I would be more inclined to repair the fixture than to rely on CBs to save life/property or prevent a shock.

 

[ptonsparky]

FWIW, I have had the local glass company cut me a piece to replace broken lens. Some need to be Hi Temp. Yes, most likely more than the fixture was new.

 

[ramsy]

How much GFCI protection

GE Mod.3 was the first AFCI breaker to pass UL1699 without any ground fault feature.

Dual function breakers use Class A, 6 mA GFCI rather than 30mA GFPE.

However, pitonsparky is correct --no GFCI required-- if no outdoor receptacles are involved, and --no AFCI's required-- If no indoor rooms are involved.

 

[Ravenvalor]

Ten years is a lot of time in the that style of breaker.
I would be more inclined to repair the fixture than to rely on CBs to save life/property or prevent a shock.

Unfortunately the customer had the glass lens removed because the fixture was accumulating too much moisture. He would rather live with the risks involved and use some GFCI protection as a Hail Mary pass.

 

[ptonsparky]

Unfortunately the customer had the glass lens removed because the fixture was accumulating too much moisture. He would rather live with the risks involved and use some GFCI protection as a Hail Mary pass.

Weep holes.

 

[Little Bill]

Unfortunately the customer had the glass lens removed because the fixture was accumulating too much moisture. He would rather live with the risks involved and use some GFCI protection as a Hail Mary pass.

I wouldn't be concerned with GFCI protection since it has a louver over it.

 

[Ravenvalor]

Weep holes.

It looks like some nice size weep holes were already drilled into bottom.