2020 NEC Island outlet placement question.

[Scottybars2288]

The idea was to cover the electrical need for the island/peninsula. If the requirement allowed 2, 3 or however many receptacles in one place it would make no sense.

like stated originally, there is only one location suitable for outlets to serve the working area. all other sides have cabinet doors or over hangs too large to install outlets underneath. it is not possible to install one on the bottom of the over hang, further away, like one other user implied, they are all granite. I get what you’re saying but the ONLY possible solution if you are correct is the counter top pop up outlets. which I think is very silly to enforce. maybe will RFI

 

[LarryFine]

it is not possible to install one on the bottom of the over hang, further away, like one other user implied, they are all granite.

That was me. How about construction adhesive?

 

[letgomywago]

Remember that you can do the wiremould longer too and put the connector to the romex or Mc inside the cabinet area. The other thing is push for a pendant drop I want that to be the best and latest and greatest thing it would make my life easy and it could look cool if they wanted it too.

 

[ramsy]

The idea was to cover the electrical need for the island/peninsula. If the requirement allowed 2, 3 or however many receptacles in one place it would make no sense. You may as well just ask for one receptacle. Who makes the decision would be the ahj.

The 2020 handbook clarifies island/peninsula are treated differently.

2020 Handbook for 210.52(C)(2 & 3)
Unlike peninsula countertops, island countertops do not have a mandatory receptacle outlet placement requirement, and the minimum number of outlet(s) determined in accordance with 210.52(C)(2)(a) can all be located as desired by the owner, installer, or designer.

breaking the counter top down the middle, center of the 2 gang box, would give me 2 work areas of 8.75, so there would technically be an outlet in each work area

That appears to be correct for an island, but not a peninsula.

 

[TX+ MASTER#4544]

Scottybars2288
2020 NEC

210.52(C) Countertops and Work Surfaces. Second paragraph".......where using multioutlet assemblies (plug mold) each 12 inches of multioutlet assembly containing two or more receptacles..........considered to be one receptacle outlet"

Article 380 Multioutlet Assembly. 380.12 Uses Not Permitted (7) so you can't use "cord and plug connected". Hard wire it with your NM wiring method.
Section 210.52 (C) (3) Receptacle Location. (1) (2),(3). See below for additional info.

And notice other Code sections as noted there in "I Note No. 1for other receptacles in countertops.......and multioutlet assemblies."

210.52 (C) (2) (b)..... "for additional required outlets shall be determined by the installer,........"

" Countertops, unlike peninsula countertops do not have a mandatory receptacle outlet placement requirement....."
That is Code Commentary. But I think a talk with your AHJ might be worth while.

Thanks for reading.
Comments Accepted.
TX+MASTER #4544

 

[TX+ MASTER#4544]

Scottybars2288
2020 NEC

210.52(C) Countertops and Work Surfaces. Second paragraph".......where using multioutlet assemblies (plug mold) each 12 inches of multioutlet assembly containing two or more receptacles..........considered to be one receptacle outlet"

Article 380 Multioutlet Assembly. 380.12 Uses Not Permitted (7) so you can't use "cord and plug connected". Hard wire it with your NM wiring method.
Section 210.52 (C) (3) Receptacle Location. (1) (2),(3). See below for additional info.

And notice other Code sections as noted there in "I Note No. 1for other receptacles in countertops.......and multioutlet assemblies."

210.52 (C) (2) (b)..... "for additional required outlets shall be determined by the installer,........"

" Countertops, unlike peninsula countertops do not have a mandatory receptacle outlet placement requirement....."
That is Code Commentary. But I think a talk with your AHJ might be worth while.

Thanks for reading.
Comments Accepted.
TX+MASTER #4544

SORRY ,my wife interuptted me and I forgot I'd already hit reply. She likes to see who I'm sending this to, you know.

 

[ramsy]

That is Code Commentary. But I think a talk with your AHJ might be worth while.

I would ask the inspector if they agree with unenforceable handbook commentary, apparently based on a lack of prescription for island-outlet placement vs the 2 foot prescription that "shall be provided" beyond peninsula walls.

The 90.5(B) permissive code found in 210.52(C)(2)(b) "shall be permitted" is also unenforceable, but guides ambiguity toward permission, rather than restriction.