2026 is out

Lots of changes indeed, especially low voltage, looks like after 70 years the whats left of the phone company lost their exemption, article 800 is now just like any other article if I am reading the revisions of 90.3 right. I think it was in 1947 Ma Bell lobbied for that special treatment.
And Article 800 covers the requirements for all communications system wires and cables located outside of and entering
buildings.
 
Wouldn't it be nice that once the new version of the code is released if the NFPA would offer the previous version in a PDF format?
 
Wouldn't it be nice that once the new version of the code is released if the NFPA would offer the previous version in a PDF format?
That would be nice except that everyone would wait for the next code to start the one before. Many areas still are on the 2017, 2020, 2023 etc.
 
Wouldn't it be nice that once the new version of the code is released if the NFPA would offer the previous version in a PDF format?
I wish - I find the lack of a PDF of the new code books of be the biggest problem relating to the NEC right now. I've used several of the digital code book services, with LiNK being the best of them by far, but even LiNK is nowhere near as fast and convenient as a PDF.
 
I wish - I find the lack of a PDF of the new code books of be the biggest problem relating to the NEC right now. I've used several of the digital code book services, with LiNK being the best of them by far, but even LiNK is nowhere near as fast and convenient as a PDF.
Yeah the lack of PDF's sucks. Many areas especially on construction sites lack good Internet connectivity.
 
Many areas especially on construction sites lack good Internet connectivity.
Yep - thinking about being in a subcellar surrounded by concrete four stories below grade. No connectivity whatsoever.


I know about the offline access, but have never tried it because it warns you that if you sign in with a different account on your device, or if you sign into the same account on another device, then you will have to redownload the offline content. For me that isn't really helpful since I sign into my LiNK account on multiple devices.

Might be worth giving it a shot just to see.
 
This is getting out of hand. The NFPA is so overly protective of their work that it's difficult to use it. No PDFs, tough to access online, crappy print version paper and bindings... yet the charge top dollar. I know this has been said many times before, but if a code is adopted into law it has to be available to the public at no or reasonable cost. When are they going to crack down on these crooks? If the NFPA can't make money that way they should charge the states and jurisdictions that adopt it for its use. (But then they know that states won't be so quick to adopt each new code.)

-Hal
 
This is getting out of hand. The NFPA is so overly protective of their work that it's difficult to use it. No PDFs, tough to access online, crappy print version paper and bindings... yet the charge top dollar. I know this has been said many times before, but if a code is adopted into law it has to be available to the public at no or reasonable cost. When are they going to crack down on these crooks? If the NFPA can't make money that way they should charge the states and jurisdictions that adopt it for its use. (But then they know that states won't be so quick to adopt each new code.)

-Hal

Because of the way our state constitution is written and also California any standard, code, law, ordnance etc adopted by reference is public domain, there is a organization that sues the states of Oregon and California (possibly others) every time the states adopts any new codes or laws and forces the state to release a free PDF version to them which they put out for free.
this is the website:
The California 2022 NEC is published here:
 
They have increased the subscription price to $130/year
Sounds like a ripoff when you only need access to one document like the NEC. That's $390 for the 3 year cycle which will only go up. I thought that the NFPA was a nonprofit? It's no wonder people want to pirate their stuff.
 
Sounds like a ripoff when you only need access to one document like the NEC. That's $390 for the 3 year cycle which will only go up. I thought that the NFPA was a nonprofit? It's no wonder people want to pirate their stuff.
If it is non profit they still have to pay salaries and, like everyone else, they all want raises. They have over 300 codes and standards.

If I looked at it as $390 for 3 years it makes me balk but $130/yr for access anywhere is, imo, not bad. I am sure most companies can afford that.
 
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