210.71 Meeting Rm Floor Receptacle Outlets

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For the newer 2017 NEC requirement to have floor receptacle outlets in Meeting type rooms, 210.71.B.2; does one floor box with one duplex receptacle count as one or two of the required receptacle outlets?
My stance is that a duplex is two receptacle outlets and one floor duplex would meet the requirement for a room up to 430SF.
What are other's thoughts on this?
 
The rule requires "at least one receptacle outlet." That can be met with a simplex; you don't even need a duplex. If the room is big enough, or has movable partitions, then there may be a requirement for that "at least one receptacle outlet" to be installed in more than one location.
 
To me, a duplex receptacle is two receptacles, but its box is a single receptacle outlet.

Glad I could contribute to the confusion. :p
 
210.71(B)(2) says you need one receptacle outlet (i.e., the box, but likely to contain a duplex) for every 215 SF. Your room has twice that area, and therefore would need two receptacle outlets. My interpretation is that you can't satisfy this requirement with a single, 4x4 box containing two duplexes. Now, the two outlet boxes can be side-by-side, as 210.71(B) gives us the freedom to put the outlets wherever we wish.
 
Seems to me that if one ran two different branch circuits to the same box, and provided a receptacle on each branch circuit (even just the two halves of a duplex receptacle), that would be two receptacle outlets.

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
Seems to me that if one ran two different branch circuits to the same box, and provided a receptacle on each branch circuit (even just the two halves of a duplex receptacle), that would be two receptacle outlets.

Cheers, Wayne
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Not on 2017 yet, but flying blind, I am not sure that two circuits are needed. One duplex and one circuit seems fine IMO.
 
jumper said:
Not on 2017 yet, but flying blind, I am not sure that two circuits are needed. One duplex and one circuit seems fine IMO.
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I didn't intend to imply that two circuits might be required, I was just giving a counterexample to the "one box = one outlet" idea.

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
I didn't intend to imply that two circuits might be required, I was just giving a counterexample to the "one box = one outlet" idea.

Cheers, Wayne
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Of course, I also do not agree with Larry or Charlie when I casually glance at the stated requirement.

A duplex is two recs to me for this application. IDK, I need to actually see the requirements to properly answer, but based on what was posted, a duplex seems to be acceptable.
 
2017 210.71(B) starts "The total number of receptacle outlets, . . ., shall not be less than . . ."

The definition of "Receptacle Outlet" in article 100 is "An outlet where one or more receptacles are installed." So one duplex receptacle on one branch circuit is just one receptacle outlet.

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
2017 210.71(B) starts "The total number of receptacle outlets, . . ., shall not be less than . . ."

The definition of "Receptacle Outlet" in article 100 is "An outlet where one or more receptacles are installed." So one duplex receptacle on one branch circuit is just one receptacle outlet.

Cheers, Wayne
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Hmmmm, I gotta think for a sec.

I may be changing my mind, stupid NEC wording.:(
 
This requirement is really no different than the 2014 garage outlet requirement of a receptacle outlet FOR each car space.
Many thought a duplex would meet code.
I believe the final consensus was you need 2 boxes with receptacles based on the definitions of outlet & receptacle outlet.
 
Wayne and Derek, please reread post 6. The requirement is for a "receptacle outlet" (not "receptacle") for each area of 215 SF.
 
charlie b said:
Wayne and Derek, please reread post 6. The requirement is for a "receptacle outlet" (not "receptacle") for each area of 215 SF.
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Yes, my posts have all been addressing the concept of "receptacle outlet". In post 7, I am suggesting that a single outlet can not be located simultaneously on two different branch circuits, so that if a duplex receptacle were served by two different branch circuits, it would be two different outlets.

Otherwise, I agree with what you've posted.

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
2017 210.71(B) starts "The total number of receptacle outlets, . . ., shall not be less than . . ."

The definition of "Receptacle Outlet" in article 100 is "An outlet where one or more receptacles are installed." So one duplex receptacle on one branch circuit is just one receptacle outlet.

Cheers, Wayne
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Yeah, same wording as for spurs in UK... One Outlet box per spur, but can be 1, 2 or multiple gang or a fixed wiring outlet... Was so many arhuing that a 2 gang outlet, UK version of Duplex, violated the spur rules...
 
wwhitney said:
Yes, my posts have all been addressing the concept of "receptacle outlet". In post 7, I am suggesting that a single outlet can not be located simultaneously on two different branch circuits, so that if a duplex receptacle were served by two different branch circuits, it would be two different outlets.

Otherwise, I agree with what you've posted.

Cheers, Wayne
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So does that mean I can use less outlets in the kitchen because I split wired them?
 
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