210.8(A)(2)x2 / (5)x2 dedicated space

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Jim W in Tampa said:
It's sad that residential in our area has turned to low ball pricing.That is why i gave up doing them.How are these low ballers dealing with price of romex that goes up and up.Any bid made today will be wrong in the morning.

It's nice to be in the position to be able to give up bidding certain builders. But there are some areas that electrical contractors have to bid all available or fold up their shop.

And for us inspectors, we have to inspect every job regardless of what the situation is. We know that contractors are getting pinched and we want to work with their situation unless it compromises a code requirement. So we're always looking at various options.

I haven't yet heard a good argument that shoots down the thought of accepting cover labeling in lieu of having the equipment on site at time of inspection.

David
 
dnem said:
Sounds like your local inspectors used to accept cover labeling instead of appliance on site at time of final, but now they've changed their minds.



So the inspectors stand is appliance on site at final, GFCI, or you fail the inspection ?

David
That is exactly the situation.
 
Going back to a prior post of blanking off and returning to install a receptacle later.That is a cost effective nightmare,travel time ,gas ,material and lost time for a service crew that would probably doing a billable task.As far as just adding $100.00 to the bid well that`s not an option since bids are won for less than that.Jim W has been at the shop he knows our overhead with 140+ trucks on the road.We survive on quantity and a cut in the bottom line is disaster.I left this company for 6 months and found that I bottom lined more money with a paycheck so I do what I can to keep the bottom line as high as I can without cutting corners.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
It's sad that residential in our area has turned to low ball pricing.That is why i gave up doing them.How are these low ballers dealing with price of romex that goes up and up.Any bid made today will be wrong in the morning.
Maybe things are turning around. Yesterday, HD had 12/2 at $95/250', down from $102.
 
infinity said:
I like Larry's idea. Although it depends on what costs more, a GFCI receptacle or a call back after the owners move in?

If these are new homes and getting new appliances, I doubt that the GFCIs will be tripping. If they do, why couldn't it be billed as a service call?:confused:
 
dlhoule said:
If these are new homes and getting new appliances, I doubt that the GFCIs will be tripping. If they do, why couldn't it be billed as a service call?:confused:

The post I'm referring to suggested a blank cover on the receptacle. When the owner moved in then the device could be installed since the appliance would be there to occupy the dedicated space.

One more possibility: blank the box until it's needed.
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Larry B. Fine
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Richmond, VA

Not a bad idea if you think that going back to remove the blank cover and installing a standard receptacle is more cost effective than simply installing a GFCI in the first place. My reply was not intended to involve a service call.
 
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