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don't forget to tell him his comments to others was unnecessary and unprofessional.
While I agree with the facts I don't think telling the boss those things is a great plan unless he is ready to find a new job over it.
don't forget to tell him his comments to others was unnecessary and unprofessional.
The AIC rating has almost nothing to do with it..... but the AIC rating may be too low.
Actually, I feel a little foolish about this. While searching for this forgotten graphic, I discovered that I was actually the person who originally posed the question, and you (Jim) were the person who answered it in the first place.Yeah, I forgot about the venting near the deadfront. I had seen a nice graphic explaining it a couple years ago, but couldn't find it any more.
I disagree. Even in light of my first posting, Chris' actions were never in question. Not even I was disputing the non-compliance aspect of using slash-rated breakers in this application because it is clearly spelled out in 240.85.As an employee, you really think you know what arrangements your employer has made with the customer? Your hubris is staggering.
I'd fire you on the spot for ordering those breakers without consulting me.
As an employee, you really think you know what arrangements your employer has made with the customer? Your hubris is staggering.
I'd fire you on the spot for ordering those breakers without consulting me.
I don't think we have anywhere near enough knowledge of the situation to say that.
We don't know Chris's arraignments with his boss. For instance I am just an employee but I regularly run jobs, order stock, make design decisions without consulting the boss first ......... that is my job and I bet it is Chris's job as well.
As long as a slash-rated breaker did not use the B-phase (high leg), an engineer might be able to get the AHJ to sign off on a variance, but that's going to be the only exception for not conforming to the blanket statement of 240.85.
As an employee, you really think you know what arrangements your employer has made with the customer? Your hubris is staggering.
I'd fire you on the spot for ordering those breakers without consulting me.
Well, that seems a bit harsh to me. It would depend on your position and the culture of the company. I spent many years with a company that would never question me on something like this and using my own good judgement. Now if it was going to cost us a lot of money, they would expect a heads up first. We had a culture of just do the right thing. Same went for job visits by the boss. He would never approach one of my people, he would come to me first if he saw something he had a question about.
I guess I feel that way because I have a very small company, and even $50 is important to the bottom line (ie, groceries.)
Chris has been there a long time-- I am guessing that wouldn't be a problem.While I agree with the facts I don't think telling the boss those things is a great plan unless he is ready to find a new job over it.
Even though this is time and material and he got to mark these up 20%, he just has a hard time with this, same old crap, "Who else would care", "You think the EI is going to catch that?"
Chris has been there a long time-- I am guessing that wouldn't be a problem.
The AIC rating has almost nothing to do with it.
A low amount of available Short Circuit Amps (SCA) may come into play, but that is unlikely.
Nine times out of ten, the 'slash rating' problem is with Line-Ground voltages and fault clearing, not the fact that it is simply single pole.
Depends on what document you were really reading from Bussmann. Believe it or not, fuse manufacturers are not the best source of information when it comes to circuit breakers.Bussmans explanation was it was not voltage, it was available amperage for the reason. That was also was basically what you posted.
This is not an isolated incedent. We have been at each others throats for 9yrs now. Yet, before or after hours when we sit around BSin about non-work related crap its quite enjoyable. I have recently expressed desire to end this relationship and was asked to reconsider as he would lose a lucrative nitch of work.
Didn't mean to come on here and vent, just looking to edcuate my employer with info such as given in Jim's post #16.
Thanks all.
If you want to get well acquainted with it come hang out with me for a week.I'm not familiar with the statement "fail inspection"...