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How many fixtures would you estimate one qualified journeyman can install in an 8 hour shift 14 foot ceilings 2x4 LED thin panel removal of old fixture replacing with new reusing existing feeds

How would you guys prices out per fixture or just a bulk price

I say one guy can do 10 a night conservatively

I'm thinking a hundred bucks a pop labor only keep in mind these are New York City prices

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IIRC, the last time I did commercial 2x4 lay-ins in a 12 foot high ceiling grid it took me 50 minutes each. That included:
*placing the ladder
*unboxing the fixture.
*hauling fixture up the ladder and dropping it in place.
*screwing it to the track in two places.
*attaching a pre-made whip that had previously been connected to the circuit.
*installing the tubes x 4
*attaching guys x 2 to fixture, previously installed to ceiling.
*attaching bat wings as needed.
*hauling out the trash to dumpster

I believe I was a qualified j-man at the time.
 
Hi ,
I am on a lighting job right now. In a good day I replaced 11. Everything went good that day. It took me 7 hours and no lunch. The second day I only completed 6. That was in a kitchen area so it was tight working.

Hope me this helps,
Jim
 
nickelec said:
How many fixtures would you estimate one qualified journeyman can install in an 8 hour shift 14 foot ceilings 2x4 LED thin panel removal of old fixture replacing with new reusing existing feeds

How would you guys prices out per fixture or just a bulk price

I say one guy can do 10 a night conservatively

I'm thinking a hundred bucks a pop labor only keep in mind these are New York City prices
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Coppersmith said:
IIRC, the last time I did commercial 2x4 lay-ins in a 12 foot high ceiling grid it took me 50 minutes each.
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I think that I would want 1 hour labor pr fixture to remove the old and install new to be on the safe side.

If the ceiling is completely open it's easier to get the fixtures out but if there is a lot of duct work or conduits in the way it can get a little harder.
 
I did three banks last summer to swap out T8 fluors to LED panels. On average, I figured about 0:55 per. This included everything. Set up, bring in the new panel, unbox it, set up ladder & floor cloth, do some recon above the ceiling, disconnect whip on old fixture, haul it down, install new panel, hook up whip, unlamp old fixture for recycling, remove old lamps and fixture from building, clean up.

These were mostly 8-10' ceilings, but being a bank (office, teller windows, etc), there were a lot of obstacles below the fixtures. In some cases, like in the vaults, I had to completely disassemble the grid to get the old troffers out as they were jammed up against the concrete security ceiling. Then reassemble to put the new panel in.

Another consideration is replacing whips that are too short for the new fixtures. If the new fixtures have connection points identical to the old ones, it's not an issue. But these panels had the junction boxes in a different location than the old troffers, and were side-feed only. So some whips had to be replaced with some ad-hoc MC cables made to fit.
 
Biggest factor is what do you have to work around, including what may be within the ceiling, and do you have to do it off ladders or can you do it off a lift? Getting equipment and materials in and back out of the space is another big factor and will vary from one job to another.
 
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