iwire Moderator Staff member Location Massachusetts Mar 15, 2003 #1 This post has got me to wondering if I am mistaken, any help would be appreciated Is this wiring safe?
This post has got me to wondering if I am mistaken, any help would be appreciated Is this wiring safe?
roger Moderator Staff member Location Fl Occupation Retired Electrician Mar 15, 2003 #2 Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Bob, this doesn't meet the definition of multiwire branch circuit so articles refering to such would not apply. With this said, across the loads conductors 1&3 would be in parallel, therefore would have to meet applicable articles. (a stretch here) Tell him that he will have to use a minimum of 1/0 for this circuit. I agree with you that 110.3 would come to play here. We can all make things work and find loop holes. Roger [ March 15, 2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Bob, this doesn't meet the definition of multiwire branch circuit so articles refering to such would not apply. With this said, across the loads conductors 1&3 would be in parallel, therefore would have to meet applicable articles. (a stretch here) Tell him that he will have to use a minimum of 1/0 for this circuit. I agree with you that 110.3 would come to play here. We can all make things work and find loop holes. Roger [ March 15, 2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
iwire Moderator Staff member Location Massachusetts Mar 15, 2003 #3 Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Roger, thanks for the reply. I showed 240.20(B) I think that is for all circuits. 240.20.20(B)(1) is an exception for multiwire circuits.
Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Roger, thanks for the reply. I showed 240.20(B) I think that is for all circuits. 240.20.20(B)(1) is an exception for multiwire circuits.
roger Moderator Staff member Location Fl Occupation Retired Electrician Mar 15, 2003 #4 Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Bob, your interpretation of article 240.20(B) and 240.20(B)(1) is the way I see it too. I see no way he can argue that this is two different circuits. With conductor 2 being an ungrounded conductor common to 1&3, the two breakers on A leg would be violating 240.8 Roger [ March 15, 2003, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Bob, your interpretation of article 240.20(B) and 240.20(B)(1) is the way I see it too. I see no way he can argue that this is two different circuits. With conductor 2 being an ungrounded conductor common to 1&3, the two breakers on A leg would be violating 240.8 Roger [ March 15, 2003, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
B bphgravity Senior Member Location Florida Mar 15, 2003 #5 Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Thanks Roger, I see my error! [ March 16, 2003, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: bphgravity ]
Re: 3 conductors for 2 - 240 outlets? Thanks Roger, I see my error! [ March 16, 2003, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: bphgravity ]