3 Phase Delta?

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Ive got voltages at a 3 phase disconect reading A-B-C all saying 240 across them ok. When you go A & B to ground u get 240v. But on C Phase u get nothing, my meter says 3 volts to ground. Some one was telling me this was delta with a high leg, but I thought that one of the legs to ground would read something high like 300 volts. And the other legs were 120 to ground for lights. Does this make any sense?
 
It's likely a 3 phase, 3 wire corner grounded Delta. The is no high leg in that system.
 
colors?

colors?

Ok, So what colors do the code say to mark phases? Black n Red for the first 2? and the 3rd phase witch is 240 to B or A phase but 0 to ground. What Would that be?
 
Click here for a good explanation from Scott Thompson, take note of the disconnect in figure #5.

Roger
 
Thanks for the info. That's interesting, looking at the website pics it says the HOT phase thats grounded should be grey. wouldnt that throw someone off thinkin that thats a nutrel for 120 circuits? the disconnect thats in now has fuses for all 3 phases an acording to the drawings, that should have no fuse just a buss link. If thats so, if u get 240 between the grounded phase what happens in a fault if the grounded phase isnt fused? does the other fuses trip? So if i touch with my hand the grounded 240v phase I should not feel anything right??
 
Think of a grounded delta system as you would the normal single phase service. The difference being the grounded conductor does not carry the imbalance of L1 & L2 and there are no line to neutral loads. Once that phase is grounded, you are at the same potential. Only thing different is the phase to ground voltage. Yours is 240v, we have some in this area at 480v to ground.
 
Thanks for the info. That's interesting, looking at the website pics it says the HOT phase thats grounded should be grey. wouldnt that throw someone off thinkin that thats a nutrel for 120 circuits? the disconnect thats in now has fuses for all 3 phases an acording to the drawings, that should have no fuse just a buss link. If thats so, if u get 240 between the grounded phase what happens in a fault if the grounded phase isnt fused? does the other fuses trip? So if i touch with my hand the grounded 240v phase I should not feel anything right??

Disconnects on corner-grounded delta systems should not have fuse in the grounded conductor (unless the fuse is providing overload protection to a motor).During a fault condition the grounded conductor behaves just like any other grounded conductor.

Touching any grounded conductor can be dangerous, if there is current flowing on the conductor your body becomes a parallel path.
 
Thanks for the info. That's interesting, looking at the website pics it says the HOT phase thats grounded should be grey. wouldnt that throw someone off thinkin that thats a nutrel for 120 circuits?
It shouldn't, nothing should ever be taken for granted.
the disconnect thats in now has fuses for all 3 phases an acording to the drawings, that should have no fuse just a buss link.
The fuse should be removed and replace with a slug.
If that's so, if u get 240 between the grounded phase what happens in a fault if the grounded phase isnt fused?
This is really no different electrically than solidly grounding the center of a single phase 240 v winding to make a 120/240 v system. Until two points are contacted there is no hazard. If the grounded conductor is opened another hazard is introduced the same as opening the grounded conductor of a 120/240 v system.
does the other fuses trip?
It should, the same thing would happen in the above example of a 120/240 v single phase system.
So if i touch with my hand the grounded 240v phase I should not feel anything right??
Not until a second point of the system were touched at the same time.

Roger
 
BTW, Winnie has a point also but, in most cases there will be a ground detector system at the service equipment.

Roger
 
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