300.13 b

[stickboy1375]

Your talking about two seperate wires entering a box and using all the screws on the device correct? Without using pigtails...

 

[Smart $]

I guess it didn't work

Your image source URL is "http://http://groups.msn.com/supercalafrajalistickespyaladosioius"

That is neither a valid URL (one too many "http://") nor a valid image.

Also noticed there is no longer an attachment feature in my Advanced Post interface. Is this the case for everyone?

 

[monkey_man_100]

Your talking about two seperate wires entering a box and using all the screws on the device correct? Without using pigtails...

yes. I have a book by Ray C. Mullin and it has a diagram with two pictures. One outlet with pigtails and one without. He then sites 300-13 (b)

 

[monkey_man_100]

Your image source URL is "http://http://groups.msn.com/supercalafrajalistickespyaladosioius"

That is neither a valid URL (one too many "http://") nor a valid image.

Also noticed there is no longer an attachment feature in my Advanced Post interface. Is this the case for everyone?

Sorry I am having trouble showing what I mean. And I don't know how to use that Msn group thing.

 

[George Stolz]

Whoops - didn't notice the attachments thing bit the dust - be right back.

 

[stickboy1375]

yes. I have a book by Ray C. Mullin and it has a diagram with two pictures. One outlet with pigtails and one without. He then sites 300-13 (b)

Well if the picture with pigtails is a MWBC then the book is correct..

 

[monkey_man_100]

Ok I think I am starting to understand. I was confused cause I thought that you had to use a pigtail in every box that had more than one wire, for instance two 14-2 romex conductors in a single gang box. SO you could just back stab all 4 wires and put the grounding wire where it goes. I hope I am not too confusing. It is a lot easier to show what I mean in person.

 

[stickboy1375]

yes, but please don't back stab.... and you have to splice the ground, because there is only one screw...

 

[George Stolz]

SO you could just back stab all 4 wires and put the grounding wire where it goes. I hope I am not too confusing. It is a lot easier to show what I mean in person.

You've got it.

The term "multiwire branch circuit" is an NEC-defined term, so whenever they use it, they are using the term as an abbreviation for the long definition of that term, every time they use it.

That term, taken literally in english would mean "a circuit with many wires."

When the NEC uses the term, it means "two or more hots on different phases that are sharing a neutral back to the panel."

 

[monkey_man_100]

every receptacle I have seen have 4 screws.Still ok? I hate to beat this subject down but I like to be sure.

 

[stickboy1375]

Yes, the tab on the receptacle is rated for the load, so feedthru is permissible....

 

[monkey_man_100]

Cool thanks for the help. I feel enlightened.

 

[stickboy1375]

I only know a little, there are some smart people on this forum...

 

[George Stolz]

every receptacle I have seen have 4 screws.Still ok? I hate to beat this subject down but I like to be sure.

As long as you only install one wire per screw (as the receptacle is listed) and none of the wires are bigger than #10 (110.14(A)) then you are fine.

Bear in mind, there is more peace of mind in using a wirenut instead of the receptacle for this purpose, and it is generally considered a superior practice. But IMO, the screws are just fine, and they're what I use.

 

[stickboy1375]

Yes, like George stated, I only use all the screws on 14 gauge wire, I splice all my 12 guage wire, but from a code standpoint you are allowed to do it...

 

[drg]

"Good "now that the soild wire thing is over what do you guys do different when using stranded wire ???

 

[don_resqcapt19]

drg,
From the UL Guide for recptacles (RTRT).

Terminals of the wire-binding screw, setscrew, or screw-actuated back wired clamping types are suitable for use with both solid and stranded building wires.

Don