stevenje
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Arlington BE1R - Ceiling Box ExtenderThey may make extenders for round boxes, but I've never seen one.
Arlington BE1R - Ceiling Box ExtenderThey may make extenders for round boxes, but I've never seen one.
We put 5/8 rings on just about anywhere they tell us it’s 1/2 rock.
I’ve managed to dodge that bullet over 40 years. My work for GCs is limited though.Then one day the GC hires a drywall company that actually knows how to install drywall and all the boxes are protruding 1/8". GC says you must fix all boxes on your dime.
40 years without seeing a drywaller who knows how to install drywall? Sounds about right.I’ve managed to dodge that bullet over 40 years. My work for GCs is limited though.
Only with combustible wall material.Yes, but do I really need those box extensions for 1/8"?
I know there is a 3/8" line on box, but have never seen where it tells me that I have to use itThey are designed to be recessed 1/8". Take a plastic box. Slide it against a 2x4 until it hits the stud stops. Measure the distance the box protrudes past the face of the 2x4. That distance is 3/8". (You can do this at Home Depot if you don't stock these items.)
As I said, it is very easy to bump a plastic box back 1/8" if nothing is behind it, the nails will bend and box will still be secure. This is not an unproven theory, I've done it many timesThen one day the GC hires a drywall company that actually knows how to install drywall and all the boxes are protruding 1/8". GC says you must fix all boxes on your dime.
Now ya' have:They may make extenders for round boxes, but I've never seen one.
When it comes to plaster rings, I always go 1/8" deeper, too. The screws that hold the rings on tend to act as spacers.We put 5/8 rings on just about anywhere they tell us it’s 1/2 rock.
They are designed to be recessed 1/8". Take a plastic box. Slide it against a 2x4 until it hits the stud stops. Measure the distance the box protrudes past the face of the 2x4. That distance is 3/8". (You can do this at Home Depot if you don't stock these items.)
I have a jig made out of 1/2 plywood, puts them all same height and can use the thickness as a guide for getting it flush for 1/2 finishes. Can usually eyeball close enough if needing to go with 3/8 or 5/8 finish. That said a stud occasionally will twist a little after the fact as they can do when drying out and when you come back to finish the side furthest from stud might stick out past drywall. With plastic boxes this often can be fixed with grinder or oscillating tool.I think it depends on the box. Yes the garbage carlon boxes have a 3/8 notch. Actual good boxes like allied molded its bigger, more like 7/16 I think. Irregardless, I dont like to use the notches because with the bevel on the corner of the stud, they end up being even further back. I eye it using the notch as a reference adding a bit so the boxes end up real close to 1/2 proud.
I hadn't thought of grinding them off. Not sure what my area inspector would say.I have a jig made out of 1/2 plywood, puts them all same height and can use the thickness as a guide for getting it flush for 1/2 finishes. Can usually eyeball close enough if needing to go with 3/8 or 5/8 finish. That said a stud occasionally will twist a little after the fact as they can do when drying out and when you come back to finish the side furthest from stud might stick out past drywall. With plastic boxes this often can be fixed with grinder or oscillating tool.
Done it for about as long as I have been in the trade, especially on one and two gang boxes, anything larger, depends on how bad it is extending past the surface. It don't work with metal boxes and plaster rings you lose your mounting hole if you need to grind that area of the box.I hadn't thought of grinding them off. Not sure what my area inspector would say.
Yeah I've done the jig too, works nice.I have a jig made out of 1/2 plywood, puts them all same height and can use the thickness as a guide for getting it flush for 1/2 finishes. Can usually eyeball close enough if needing to go with 3/8 or 5/8 finish. That said a stud occasionally will twist a little after the fact as they can do when drying out and when you come back to finish the side furthest from stud might stick out past drywall. With plastic boxes this often can be fixed with grinder or oscillating tool.
I will do that too if I see it is crooked, sometimes they still warp/twist after you have been there for rough in - they are still drying outI will square up the stud with a large set of channel locks then nail or screw it in place when I notice that it is crooked.
Grinding works that why I prefer the solid plastic screw hole compared to the quick spring.