708.10(C) COPS Feeder Wiring Requirements

jbt260

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Looking for examples of wiring systems that satisfy the requirements of 708.10(C)(2) Fire Protection of Feeders. Thanks in advance.
 

ron

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You can use
or regular conduit & wire in a 2 hour rated soffit/enclosure.

First I suggest you try to avoid Article 708 like the plague and be sure you really have to follow it. It is a PIA.
 

jbt260

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Ohio
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Electrical Engineer
You can use
or regular conduit & wire in a 2 hour rated soffit/enclosure.

First I suggest you try to avoid Article 708 like the plague and be sure you really have to follow it. It is a PIA.
Appreciate the info. Right now I don't have a choice regarding 708. Maybe when the construction estimates come in, things will change.
 

qcroanoke

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Sorta retired........
First I suggest you try to avoid Article 708 like the plague and be sure you really have to follow it. It is a PIA
I agree! I have my doubts that anything could be built to 708 and pass to the letter of the article.
Hopefully that requirement will be removed when the bids come in.
 

don_resqcapt19

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I agree! I have my doubts that anything could be built to 708 and pass to the letter of the article.
Hopefully that requirement will be removed when the bids come in.
The requirement to comply with 708 is found in other codes and standards. 708 only tells us how to install it when it is required by other codes and standards.
What type of installation is this?
 

ron

Senior Member
The requirement to comply with 708 is found in other codes and standards. 708 only tells us how to install it when it is required by other codes and standards.
What type of installation is this?
I do not believe there is an adopted code in the US that requires 708.

My understanding is that it only get implemented by a contractual requirement or a rogue AHJ. Even when it is a contractual requirement, in my experience they back down when they see the cost of design and construction.
 

qcroanoke

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Location
Roanoke, VA.
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Sorta retired........
I do not believe there is an adopted code in the US that requires 708.

My understanding is that it only get implemented by a contractual requirement or a rogue AHJ. Even when it is a contractual requirement, in my experience they back down when they see the cost of design and construction.
Or someone preparing for Armageddon.
The requirements are crazy.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Sometimes the project documents of Public Safety Answering Points specifies compliance with NFPA 1221 and section 4.7.1 requires the installation of a critical operations power system in compliance with Article 708 of NFPA 70.
However in general, compliance with 708 is not often specified.
 
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