A few panels minus two

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George Stolz

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Bob (iwire) submitted his work for discussion over at the ECN forum, and he does good work, IMO. :)

I haven't had much of a humility check for the past week or so, so I figured I'd play along.

Here's the panel I stripped out today. Get those rocks ready...

Click on the images for larger photos. Sorry, they're a bit blurry, my airbrushing went awry. :p





And the service:
 
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Nice job George. Is that a box mounting bar suporting the wires above the panel? That can't be legal. :D
 
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That bushing on the romex connector where the SER comes in is a new one on me. I've never in my entire life seen a bushing used on a sheathed cable of any sort. Is this a personal choice, or is there some foundation in the code for this? I thought that the typical two screw NM style connector was considered self bushed?
 
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Originally posted by mdshunk:
That bushing on the romex connector where the SER comes in is a new one on me.
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It is not required by the NEC, either George is just diligent or they have a local amendment.
 
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According to 300.4(F), a bushing is not required. What's interesting is that in the handbook commentary (I keep an '02 handbook in my house, and I know it's just someone's opinion!) they say that this applies to all wiring methods.
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:
So what are the bushings for? :)

Originally posted by georgestolz:
Nobody spotted the violation yet, due to the blurry picture. Hint: It's temporary, and due to not restocking my van diligently. :D
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George I have enlarged the picture and played with the contrast I can't find it. :cool:

My WAG is the breakers are the wrong size based on your hint.
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sorry I do not see the point of this post, whats next vacation pictures?
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:


Nobody spotted the violation yet, due to the blurry picture. Hint: It's temporary, and due to not restocking my van diligently. :D [/QB]
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Is it the extra wires you have sneaking in with the SE cable in the main disconnect - (pix #3)? - which appears to be 2 #6s.
 
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Originally posted by celtic:
Is it the extra wires you have sneaking in with the SE cable in the main disconnect - (pix #3)? - which appears to be 2 #6s.
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Is that a violation? That's a valid question.

I (obviously) don't think it hurts anything, but am curious if someone had something to cite for that.

mpd, I am learning. There is no easier way to remember what you're learning than to post pictures of your work and let people rip you apart for it. ;)
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:
I (obviously) don't think it hurts anything, but am curious if someone had something to cite for that.
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I don't think you are hurting anything either.

But...

300.15 Boxes, Conduit Bodies, or Fittings ? Where Required.
A box shall be installed at each outlet and switch point for concealed knob-and-tube wiring.

Fittings and connectors shall be used only with the specific wiring methods for which they are designed and listed.
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Originally posted by mpd:
sorry I do not see the point of this post, whats next vacation pictures?
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I do not see the point of you being here.

Imagine the horror, an electrical message board discussing electrical stuff. Wow. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:
Is that a violation? That's a valid question.

I (obviously) don't think it hurts anything...
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Are you saying this is not the violation you were talking about?

I can barely see anything in the 2nd pic..unless of course you like blur/fuzz/grain :)

I'll look again if this is not the violation you were talking about.
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