Access control and fire alarm

Tainted

Senior Member
Location
New York
Occupation
Engineer (PE)
Code requires doors to be automatically unlocked when there is a fire alarm.

Are we allowed to provide a signal to the access control panel using an addressable fire alarm relay to open all doors?

Or must we have individual addressable relay at each door strike to send signal to open door?

The first option only requires 1 relay for all doors. But the second option requires multiple relays for multiple doors..
 

gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
The preferred method is to have the door locks set up to fail open on power loss. Then, you should put a module at each door. Lots of people want to use a single module at the door controller, but what happens if the door controller goes kaput? Does it always fail with the doors unlocked?
 

dkidd

Senior Member
Location
here
Occupation
PE
Most latches allow egress, which is the issue. The concern is with magnetic locks.
 

gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
Most latches allow egress, which is the issue. The concern is with magnetic locks.
There is also concern regarding firefighters access. They'll get in regardless, but you'd rather save the money.
 

Tainted

Senior Member
Location
New York
Occupation
Engineer (PE)
The preferred method is to have the door locks set up to fail open on power loss. Then, you should put a module at each door. Lots of people want to use a single module at the door controller, but what happens if the door controller goes kaput? Does it always fail with the doors unlocked?

I am proposing a signal to power off access controller with a fire alarm relay such that when there is no power to the access controller that all the doors will open. Not sure if this is legal though...
 

Tainted

Senior Member
Location
New York
Occupation
Engineer (PE)
Are the door strikes 'momentary?' Swipe your access card and the door unlocks for a few seconds? Unlocking them for more than a few seconds might burn out the coils...
Would a fail safe option then burn out the coils as well? If it's continuously energized to lock the doors and then fail safe to open the doors, that's a problem is it?
 

MichaelGP3

Senior Member
Location
San Francisco bay area
Occupation
Fire Alarm Technician
The preferred method is to have the door locks set up to fail open on power loss. Then, you should put a module at each door. Lots of people want to use a single module at the door controller, but what happens if the door controller goes kaput? Does it always fail with the doors unlocked?
My preferred method is to have an addressable heavy duty relay cut the hot or one leg of DC power to that floor's electro-mechanical door locks operating in fail safe mode, should such a single power source be available, which at times may not be. But if it is you only need one addressable relay per floor.
 
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