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chris1971 said:
Then you need to challenge the electrical inspector with the facts. Code references. Why be afraid of an inspector?
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No, the best thing is to cut them out of the equation entirely. I don't need some failed electrician turned inspector making up rules on the spot to tell me how I should be doing my job.
 
peter d said:
No, the best thing is to cut them out of the equation entirely. I don't need some failed electrician turned inspector making up rules on the spot to tell me how I should be doing my job.
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Sounds like your area has some lousy inspectors. :thumbsdown:
 
Well, I guess I'm in the minority but I don't follow the reasoning of this being accessible. Later part of the definition says "not permanently closed in by the structure or finish of the building". You call for a final, the project is finished, as in all the lights are installed. Only accessible if someone knows it's there, but one poster said he would leave a note. I would say write on the trim in black magic marker, (j-box above).
 
GerryB said:
Well, I guess I'm in the minority but I don't follow the reasoning of this being accessible. Later part of the definition says "not permanently closed in by the structure or finish of the building". You call for a final, the project is finished, as in all the lights are installed. Only accessible if someone knows it's there, but one poster said he would leave a note. I would say write on the trim in black magic marker, (j-box above).
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That would be me. I am a firm believer of not screwing the next man, especially since I am often the next man.

I've done enough trim replacements to know to razor-knife the things, or that overpaint WILL damage the drywall when you pull it out. That paint will tear the paper every single time.
 
GerryB said:
Well, I guess I'm in the minority but I don't follow the reasoning of this being accessible. Later part of the definition says "not permanently closed in by the structure or finish of the building".
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The finish of the building would be the Sheetrock, paneling etc it is not the light trim.

If you feel that is not enough you will need to put in a code proposal change asking that the CMP make our job easy. :D
 
JFletcher said:
That would be me. I am a firm believer of not screwing the next man, especially since I am often the next man.

I've done enough trim replacements to know to razor-knife the things, or that overpaint WILL damage the drywall when you pull it out. That paint will tear the paper every single time.
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The same thing happens on receptacle and switch covers.
 
K8MHZ said:
The same thing happens on receptacle and switch covers.
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Great point!!

So i guess we all fail the final inspection EVERY TIME. because the wires are covered by the "Building Finish" called cover plate.:D:D
 
iwire said:
The finish of the building would be the Sheetrock, paneling etc it is not the light trim.

If you feel that is not enough you will need to put in a code proposal change asking that the CMP make our job easy. :D
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Well I guess I'll eat the humble pie here since I can't find anything else about this, maybe acceptable industry practices, but I don't know if it's a good battle to be fought with the ahj. I have actually done similar myself on occasion over the years,(I can finally sleep now), but always a last ditch effort. (the op did say it was a remodel, maybe there were other options). I saw an old post that was similar to this, someone mentioned "inner turmoil" about a box behind the upper cabinets? :happyno: Maybe UnderBudget will let us know how it turns out. And now I think I'll watch some football!
 
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