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Hey guys working on a kitchen remodel and device changeout. Job was done in mid 90s origionally. Spacing wasnt enforced or codes were different. Theres more then 6 ft from door to plugs and 2 ft walls without plugs in the bedrooms. Walls stayed up just got repainted. Would you add plugs to comply with new spacing rules?
 
Would you add plugs to comply with new spacing rules?
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No.

I might add some receptacles though. :)



I wouldn't add something that would not be used just for the sake of code.....unless work was slow, so....yes.

The lines do shift a bit according to work load but I'm still not going to add something stupid like a recep @ 6' if there is one at 8 or 10', unless they need it.
 
220/221 said:
No.

I might add some receptacles though. :)



I wouldn't add something that would not be used just for the sake of code.....unless work was slow, so....yes.

The lines do shift a bit according to work load but I'm still not going to add something stupid like a recep @ 6' if there is one at 8 or 10', unless they need it.
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If the customer is willing to pay then yes, we must bring it up to code. If not, then let the inspector tell them they must pay.
 
This is strange if outlet spacing is as you say. The 2 foot and 6 foot rule has been arounf for 20 years. Should not have been passed. I would suggest adding but up to customer and inspector could force them if not legal at time
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
This is strange if outlet spacing is as you say. The 2 foot and 6 foot rule has been arounf for 20 years. Should not have been passed. I would suggest adding but up to customer and inspector could force them if not legal at time
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Jim I went back to the 1959 NEC and the 2 foot and 6 foot rule were there. Looked in the 1937 and the spacing was 10 foot.
 
For arguments sake, lets say the installation was done to code at the time of the installation. Now, obviously it is in violation. At what point (what percentage of the home being remodeled) do you have to bring the whole house up to code? I have always been under the impression of 50%.
 
justin59 said:
For arguments sake, lets say the installation was done to code at the time of the installation. Now, obviously it is in violation. At what point (what percentage of the home being remodeled) do you have to bring the whole house up to code? I have always been under the impression of 50%.
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That is up to the local jurisdiction.
 
billdozier said:
Hey guys working on a kitchen remodel and device changeout. Job was done in mid 90s origionally. Spacing wasnt enforced or codes were different. Theres more then 6 ft from door to plugs and 2 ft walls without plugs in the bedrooms. Walls stayed up just got repainted. Would you add plugs to comply with new spacing rules?
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I suggest adding and then let them decide.
 
M. D. said:
In the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts if one is hired to do even a device change it requires a permit.
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And i can just imagine how many pull one. That is just simply crazy. Do they actually go out and inspect or just simply want the money. Let's see if i have this right, customer needs a gfi changed out, house call $80 plus $15 receptacle ,plus permit. Add in to this a day off from work to get inspection. You got to be joking.
Even if the OP pulls a permit it would be to install new devices. Now if the inspector is alert and sees other violations then so be it. That is when they start paying.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
And i can just imagine how many pull one. That is just simply crazy. Do they actually go out and inspect or just simply want the money. Let's see if i have this right, customer needs a gfi changed out, house call $80 plus $15 receptacle ,plus permit. Add in to this a day off from work to get inspection. You got to be joking.
Even if the OP pulls a permit it would be to install new devices. Now if the inspector is alert and sees other violations then so be it. That is when they start paying.
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It is what it is ,.. how many actually pull one is irrelevant to the fact that one is required...
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Decide what ? After they are in the game is over. Best find out first if inspector or owner wants them. OP says device change only so why would you even pull a permit ?
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What do you mean decide what? Are you reading the thread? :confused:

Why would I ask an inspector what he wants? :confused:

I didn't mention a permit. :confused:


Let me try again for Jim.

I would tell the homewoner that it might be a good idea to add some receptacles. Then I would let the homeowner decide yes or no. Done. Simple. end of story.
 
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