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I have installed 2 receptacles in a storage room detached from the main house does it have to be afci protected.
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It will be slept in,but not too often only as a guess bed room, mostly it will be used for storage.
 
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Please explain an AFCI protection device
(use and purpose) as I am not too educated on them yet. Only 1 year in school so far.
Thanks,
Mark :)
 
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Get a copy of the NEC do some reading and then jump in the water :D But when all is said and done we learn that is something all in this forum .no matter how learned do every time we log on ;) (also have to learn to aquire a taste for humble pie ) :cool:
 
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Originally posted by smarkv:
[QB] Please explain an AFCI protection device
(use and purpose)
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They are designed to remove large amounts of money from the consumer while providing limited protection from electrical hazards.
 
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The present generation of AFCIs only protect against arcs that are 50 amps and larger. They merely reduce fire hazard with zip cords. Also, 208 volt, 240 volt, and 277 volt loads in a bedroom are exempt. Go figure. I can install a 240 volt receptacle in a bedroom and plug a 240 volt extension cord into it and it is exempt from AFCI. Some bedrooms do need a 240 volt air conditioner such as a third floor deal that is up underneath a roof. In a motel room I can install a 277 volt PTAC or Packaged Terminal Heat Pump and it is exempt even if the notel room qualifies as a dwelling unit.

I agree with Peter D that they remove money from people's pockets while providing limited electrical protection. The real benefit is for the patent holders.

Also, AFCIs are based on a fancy substation relay that was alledged to be able to automatically detect downed power lines. Every electrical utility that tried these had to rip them out. The only honest test was to close a street and deliberately drop 7,200 volts or whatever onto the ground.

What is really going to bollux things up is if this is required some day for so many areas that we will effectively be back to the days of 10 and 12 plug fuse fuse boxes. If branch circuits are too expensive so few will be installed that the circuits will run HOTTER! That is INCREASED fire hazard.
 
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By Mc5w: The present generation of AFCIs only protect against arcs that are 50 amps and larger
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Actuly UL requires them to pass a 75 amp parallel arc. Most AFCI's now have a 30 ma. GFP in them and you can get them with a 05 ma.GFCI for dual rating.

By Mc5w: I can install a 240 volt receptacle in a bedroom and plug a 240 volt extension cord into it and it is exempt from AFCI.
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Only if it is larger than 1440 va, or more than ? hp. See 210.6(A)(2)

Just a few tibbits :D
 
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You know Allen, I think these moderators have a way to see what we are posting before we post and then they type real fast and post ahead of us. :D

Just kidding. He must be able to read minds. Or maybe he just knew the answer. :D :D :D :D
 
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Originally posted by hurk27:
You know Allen, I think these moderators have a way to see what we are posting before we post and then they type real fast and post ahead of us.
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That, and whenever I use really Grade-A cuss words, they turn to **** before anybody can see them. I think the moderators are endowed with special powers. :D
 
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