mokelectric
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I do not understand what an AIC rating, series rating or fully rated circuit breaker is, can it be explained in simple terms?
No:grin:mokelectric said:can it be explained in simple terms?
Jraef said:All standard breakers, unless specifically stated otherwise, are really rated for a maximum of 80% of the current it says it is rated for.
Looks that way, confirmed in Jim's posting too. I just wasn't thinking it through well enough. Serves me right for posting early, left myself wide open for correction.augie47 said:Jraef, not speaking for the OP, but would you not think his "fully rated" term might be for a system where ALL the breakers are rated at the available AIC vs "serties rated".
Yes, I know, just wasn't going into that additional detail because if he didn't know all this, I thought it was a little daunting to hit him with all the little ifs ands or buts. As it turns out, it was a red herring anyway.iwire said:A small point, standard breakers are rated 100% non-continuous, 80% continuous. A continuous load is one that lasts more then 3 hours.
OK, I'll defer to your wisdom on that. As I see it, that is what is happening at some level. The "let through" current of the upstream device has to be lower than the withstand rating of the downstream device. But I see your point, "Current Limiting" is a more specific term for a design feature, I probably should not have used it.jim dungar said:...Current limiting is not a requirement for series ratings.
The following numbers match the above statements.Jraef said:
- . . . Do you mean 100% rated?
- . . . The logic follows that if you need 80A in a circuit, you must size the conductors at 125% of that 80A, so 100A conductors.
- . . . you can buy a special version of that breaker rated for 100% continuously.
- It will have a specific label on it that says it is a 100% rated breaker.
- In most cases, the only difference in construction is the lugs . . .
Jraef said:OK, I'll defer to your wisdom on that. As I see it, that is what is happening at some level. The "let through" current of the upstream device has to be lower than the withstand rating of the downstream device. But I see your point, "Current Limiting" is a more specific term for a design feature, I probably should not have used it.
jim dungar said:A better but maybe still not completely accurate term is dynamic impedance. Dynamic impedance includes, among other items, increased resistance created by the arc which results from contact separation as one of the OCPD's operates.
Jraef said:Yes, I know, just wasn't going into that additional detail because if he didn't know all this, I thought it was a little daunting to hit him with all the little ifs ands or buts. As it turns out, it was a red herring anyway.
Had not heard that term before. Looks as though I have something new to learn, thanks.jim dungar said:A better but maybe still not completely accurate term is dynamic impedance. Dynamic impedance includes, among other items, increased resistance created by the arc which results from contact separation as one of the OCPD's operates.