Aluminum Conductors Copper Ground

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I don't think the aerial would be in emt. Assuming the EMT is on either end and transitioning to aerial
That was my thought as well but I'm beginning to wonder after reading thru all the post again. That was why I said in my earlier post that the OP could use the #10 CU at each end as long as he had suitable AL/CU connectors.
Maybe the OP will come back and clarify.
 
Hi all, this is long but should be clear. The aerial cable will run between panels (from house to garage). There will be no aerial cable in EMT at all. My question was simply can copper and aluminum be used in the same raceway. The EMT is on either end and transitioning to aerial. In the EMT I am planning to run #4 aluminum out thru a weather head to meet the overhead quadruplex which is also #4 aluminum. My only question is if a copper grounding conductor would be permitted to be used in the EMT with the aluminum current carrying conductors. I have some insulated #10 copper I want to use for the grounding conductor. This #10 copper will only be run in EMT on each end which will tie to the quadruplex messenger cable. The current carrying #4 aluminum conductors in EMT will tie to quadruplex current carrying conductors via EMT. #10 copper 250.122 as the overcurrent device will be 60A. I will use suitable AL/CU connectors where the #10 copper meets the overhead messenger cable.
 
Hi all, this is long but should be clear. The aerial cable will run between panels (from house to garage). There will be no aerial cable in EMT at all. My question was simply can copper and aluminum be used in the same raceway. The EMT is on either end and transitioning to aerial. In the EMT I am planning to run #4 aluminum out thru a weather head to meet the overhead quadruplex which is also #4 aluminum. My only question is if a copper grounding conductor would be permitted to be used in the EMT with the aluminum current carrying conductors. I have some insulated #10 copper I want to use for the grounding conductor. This #10 copper will only be run in EMT on each end which will tie to the quadruplex messenger cable. The current carrying #4 aluminum conductors in EMT will tie to quadruplex current carrying conductors via EMT. #10 copper 250.122 as the overcurrent device will be 60A. I will use suitable AL/CU connectors where the #10 copper meets the overhead messenger cable.
Sounds like you're on the right page now.
 
# 10 will be in EMT coming out of panels on house and garage along with #4, quadruplex run between the panels. I'm running quadruplex because I don't want the grounded conductor to be bare overhead. I don't think I can use triplex because I want 240 at garage. Maybe I'm using wrong terms in reference to quadruplex and triplex.... is there 4 insulated wires in addition to messenger with quadruplex and then 3 insulated in addition to messenger for triplex?
Yea thanks Im on the right page. Pretty much what I was saying from the OP and post #3 though. The fact that the two different types of wire (aluminum and copper) being in the same raceway is what got me thinking from the beginning. In residential I often have had to connect aluminum to copper with junction boxes using alumicons then to new devices, or for larger conductors like the range I've gone from #8 copper in new panel to a j box in crawl that tied to #6 aluminum that went to range box and never thought twice about it very common. The fact this involved different conductors in EMT is what I was thinking about. Some of the older romex Ive demoed had #6 aluminum conductors wrapped in strands of copper I had to twist that was the ground. But again the raceway is what I was concerned with.
 
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Since there is no listed quadplex and the covering on the conductors is not one of the insulations listed in Article 310, many AHJs will not permit its use.
 
Since there is no listed quadplex and the covering on the conductors is not one of the insulations listed in Article 310, many AHJs will not permit its use.

Isnt there a code section that arguable covers such "other cables"? I cant remember where that is. :unsure:

Besides I lump this in the "technicalities that no one cares about" category, like using a PVC TA in a myers hub.
 
Isnt there a code section that arguable covers such "other cables"? I cant remember where that is. :unsure:

Besides I lump this in the "technicalities that no one cares about" category, like using a PVC TA in a myers hub.
I lump it in there as well, but there will be that occasional inspector that will call it out anyway, then you either need to comply or convince inspector otherwise
 
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