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electricmanscott said:
Don't believe everything you are told. :wink: Go ahead and enter a persons property to retrieve "your" materials that you installed and were not paid for. It will not end in your favor.

not saying it's right...just saying.

True statement. Have HO/GC report theft and charge what ever it is to replace. Then tell HO/GC if things are to be moved, relocated or changed YOU will do it and if others are allowed to continue to alter the electrical system it will void any warranty on material and workmanship. A carpenter will not take the care removing staples, boxes or wiring that you would due to the damage it can do.
 
carpenter rips it out it goes in new..the wiring he ripped out wiring is now his..can not responsible for someone else's actions..make sure all is documented and contracts changed..smells like..
 
walkerj said:
Yesterday evening I met with a HO to discuss some changes in th kitchen of their recently sheetrocked new construction home. I found out what I needed to know and left. I returned this morning to find that a closet in an adjacent bedroom being removed to allow for more kitchen space. None of this was mentioned to me by the HO 12 hours before. None of the changes I was told of had ANYTHING to do with and completely clashed with what was going on. I walked in on a carpenter with a screwdriver and a hammer removing MY wiring. My wiring consisted of one two gang feeding under and over cab lights, one three gang feeding the other kitchen lighting, a receptacle, one RGB for a remote TV, one cable, and a phone/Internet drop. :mad:

As far as I am concerned, changes are the same as extras, I would charge the HO for all the rewiring, JMO.
 
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walkerj said:
How would you deal with the theft. We have already been paid for the rough-in. Do I charge him accordingly to replace the stolen wiring or cut him a little slack since he will have to pay to repull the wire.

Sounds like the HO needs to file a claim with his construction insurance company, and report to the police.
I wouldn't cut him cut him much slack on this, as posted earlier he should have had the construction site more secured. It sounds like you were finished with the rough in, and already had a rough in inspection, and the HO started making changes after the sheetrock was hung. Is this correct?
Was the sheetrock already finished ?
Sounds kind of late in the game to be making changes like this to me.
Job security I guess:smile:
 
I'm confused. Was the wire stolen or just removed for the changes? :-?

Either way, the clients indecision is not your problem. Rewire as needed and get paid for the extra work. I know it is a pain in the rear but use it to your advantage, extra work=extra money.
 
The sub feed and other 240's were stolen. The carpenter was just doing his job. The rocking was wrapping up when the HO mae the changes. That seems to be common occurence around here. That is still better than finding out about the changes when it is time for trimout.
Sheesh, Some people's children!
 
electricmanscott said:
Don't believe everything you are told. :wink: Go ahead and enter a persons property to retrieve "your" materials that you installed and were not paid for. It will not end in your favor.

not saying it's right...just saying.
The material is yours but to retrieve it you will be trespassing,think I will call my lawyer and get the straight answer unless one of you has passed the bar and I don't mean Joe's .
 
In our contracts

In our contracts

There is a clause:
"Homeowner and/or General Contractor is responsible for securing property to prevent the theft of installed electrical material."
"Homeowner and/or General Contractor is responsible for replacement cost of removed material after it has been installed by "company name" if a theft shall occur"
Cover your butt, scrap copper is at an all time high for those who are selling it.
The HO can usually make a claim on their construction insurance.
 
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