Another Do I need a UL Listing or not question.

[Tony S]

It's a lie told by sales people who only have a CE mark* and don't want to miss out on sales of their products because of a lack of an NRTL listing of any sort.

* CE is not a "listing" process at all, it is just a "self certification" mark that means the manufacturer claims to have met certain European ("CE" is for the French term "Conformité Européene") requirements, mostly for EMI and RFI emissions. Nobody has to test it for the manufacturer to make that claim, but in the EU, making the claim and then having someone (like a competitor) challenge it can mean getting your product banned if it fails. If nobody challenges it, you can get away with making crap and using the claim to get sales for a long time. The Chinese do this a lot now. But there is no such process here in North America, we only use what are called "third party" testing and listing agencies, collectively now referred to as NRTLs (Nationally Recognized Testing Labs), of which UL is the largest and most well known (but not the only one).

There an increasing amount of goods marked CE (China Export) the Œ mark is "Conformité Européene".

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Contact a third party testing agency and they will list it for a fee. If this is a one shot deal then that would be the best way to do this.

You can contact Intertek, I have a buddy who works for them but I don't believe he covers Utah-- mostly the eastern area. He came to one of my jobs and they checked some non listed lights that we had and passed it for about $2500.00

 

[sameguy]

Way back it was UL approved or UL listed.
Approved, had been tested by UL
Listed, on a list waiting for UL approval.

Am I remembering wrong? ? Patent pending?