Another receptacle location thread/poll

[Pierre C Belarge]

I came across this location during an inspection of a complete renovation of the house. They added this glass partition/wall between the living space and the stairwell.

Does this wall location require a receptacle as per 210.52(A)?

Somehow this posted before I had a chance to put the picture in...here it is.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I came across this location during an inspection of a complete renovation of the house. They added this glass partition/wall between the living space and the stairwell.

Does this wall location require a receptacle as per 210.52(A)?

Where's the picture?

 

[dcspector]

I can picture this in my mind almost like a railing between the living room and the stairwell I vote yes receptacle outlets are required. if that is habitable space on this side of the picture.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I say it needs a recep. even without the glass wall and had a railing. Charlie will definite disagree on that point.

 

[electricmanscott]

Is it a "hallway"? Need a bigger picture or a floor plan.

 

[480sparky]

A wall is a wall is a wall. The NEC doesn't say a wall can only be made of certain materials. 2x4s and drywall, stone, wood, glass...... it's a wall.

I say Aye!

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Is it a "hallway"? Need a bigger picture or a floor plan.

It is common to the living room according to the op

 

[Rockyd]

210.52 holds thee answer grass hopper!

 

[electricmanscott]

It is common to the living room according to the op

No, it says living space.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

No, it says living space.

Okay-- I lose- but I think Pierre wouldn't be asking this question if it were a hallway.

 

[stickboy1375]

A wall is a wall is a wall. The NEC doesn't say a wall can only be made of certain materials. 2x4s and drywall, stone, wood, glass...... it's a wall.

I say Aye!

looks like a hallway to me, none required. If under 10' in length.

 

[electricmanscott]

Okay-- I lose- but I think Pierre wouldn't be asking this question if it were a hallway.

I agree and I'd say it probably requires a receptacle but I'm not ready to say yes yet.

 

[electricmanscott]

A wall is a wall is a wall. The NEC doesn't say a wall can only be made of certain materials. 2x4s and drywall, stone, wood, glass...... it's a wall.

I say Aye!

But.... not all walls require receptacles.

 

[BryanMD]

whats the problem?

a decent glass drilling bit... some minerallacs... some emt... 1900 boxes and raco covers...

 

[480sparky]

But.... not all walls require receptacles.

True that, but my intwerpitation of 210.52 says it does.

 

[Rockyd]

Floor box. The hall is pushing ten is my bet.

 

[peter d]

whats the problem?

a decent glass drilling bit... some minerallacs... some emt... 1900 boxes and raco covers...

I would at least use a GFCI raised cover and a decora outlet.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

The room I was standing in when taking the picture is a living room.
The glass wall is between the living room and the stairwell. There are multiple stairwells from this floor level to the upstairs and down stairs as well.
To the right of where I was standing is another interesting wall construction...and very nice view of the Hudson River and surrounding area.

 

[stickboy1375]

Code or not, I would sell them one.

 

[brother]

looks like a hallway to me, none required. If under 10' in length.

Im trying to find the 'hallway' exception in the NEC 2008, can you help me??