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Started wiring an addition to a log cabin(palace) today that has been built with standard construction framing. My problem is that the interior will be finnished with half logs(to match the interior of original house) and I haven't a clue as to how I should mount the boxes or ever be able to trim this out. Anybody ever see/do this before. Any ideas would most appreciated.
 
iaov said:
Started wiring an addition to a log cabin(palace) today that has been built with standard construction framing. My problem is that the interior will be finnished with half logs(to match the interior of original house) and I haven't a clue as to how I should mount the boxes or ever be able to trim this out. Anybody ever see/do this before. Any ideas would most appreciated.
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This sounds like a cut in job. Leave the wires out and make sure the installers cut the correct openings for the gang box you need.

I did one log house where I installed the receptacles in a 4 " sq box with plaster ring because that particular log was flat and there was a baseboard being installed.
 
I wonder if they have to router you out a flat spot in the half-log for the device plate to sit flush? Sounds like fun....
 
iaov said:
Started wiring an addition to a log cabin(palace) today that has been built with standard construction framing. My problem is that the interior will be finnished with half logs(to match the interior of original house) and I haven't a clue as to how I should mount the boxes or ever be able to trim this out. Anybody ever see/do this before. Any ideas would most appreciated.
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480, pick up the phone!
 
the cabin ive done i had to run my wire on the surface of the logs and mount a surface box. the carpenter later covered up all the wires. the house i wired was a solid log house. you might need to have the carpenter cut out the boxes for you or use a surface box. what did they do in the old part of the house?
 
Lots of log houses is this area. The carpenters are all very skilled and work closely with the electricians. The most common is a block of wood precisely fit into the half log that changes the plane of the surface to flat, and then a box routed into this block for receptacle(s) or switch(es). :smile:
 
electricalperson said:
the cabin ive done i had to run my wire on the surface of the logs and mount a surface box. the carpenter later covered up all the wires. the house i wired was a solid log house. you might need to have the carpenter cut out the boxes for you or use a surface box. what did they do in the old part of the house?
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Stapled Romex to the walls and mounted metal boxes on the surface. Entire house is one big violation!!
 
The one log cabin I did we used a router for flattening and in this case I would as noted leave wires with slack have carpenters cut holes as the boards go up.
 
I hate log houses by the way, you have be there all the time till all the logs are up, but the last one I did, I was able to rough all the outside walls right after the box was framed but before the installed the deck, this way they just drilled a hole through the plywood, installed the deck, started installing the logs and drilling them for my wires, inside of building the logs were flat. the carpenters cut all the openings for my old work boxes and the job went good.
 
stickboy1375 said:
How do you figure?
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I guess an argument could be made that this installation complies with 334.15 A,however if I was the AHJ I'ld tag it for a violation of 334.15 B. I'm sure an argument would ensue as to what "protected from physical damage where necessry" means.:smile:
 
I just finished one with 8" solid logs. The owner didn't order it with routered or drilled chanels to save money so I had to drill in from door areas for switches. I then routered for ganged 2x4 boxes which the finish carpenter boxed in. I installed 4" sq. boxes w/ 3/4" raised covers along the baseboard and the finish guy installed 2" x 2" and cut in for boxes.

Since the loft had plank flooring to get from one side of the mansion to the other I had to use a chain saw to "route the 8" exposed beams & install RMC to ensure the floor guys would not puncture my wire when they did there thing (yea, they got one). The roof had 12" styrofoam insulation so ceiling fans & lights had to be run in RMC, (yea, they got one).

The nightmare ran on for nearly 3 years, never again!
 
ohm said:
I just finished one with 8" solid logs. The owner didn't order it with routered or drilled chanels to save money so I had to drill in from door areas for switches. I then routered for ganged 2x4 boxes which the finish carpenter boxed in. I installed 4" sq. boxes w/ 3/4" raised covers along the baseboard and the finish guy installed 2" x 2" and cut in for boxes.

Since the loft had plank flooring to get from one side of the mansion to the other I had to use a chain saw to "route the 8" exposed beams & install RMC to ensure the floor guys would not puncture my wire when they did there thing (yea, they got one). The roof had 12" styrofoam insulation so ceiling fans & lights had to be run in RMC, (yea, they got one).

The nightmare ran on for nearly 3 years, never again!
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I'm not real encouraged reading this.
 
Just a wild thought here.....You said it has traditional framing and the interior siding is half logs....I dont know the thickness of the half logs, but, could you utilize a deep wiremold box extension mounted on your rough in box as a "sort of " plaster ring. Then the carpenters could "fit up" the siding around that? Then the device would have a flat surface to fit on.....
 
Mule said:
Just a wild thought here.....You said it has traditional framing and the interior siding is half logs....I dont know the thickness of the half logs, but, could you utilize a deep wiremold box extension mounted on your rough in box as a "sort of " plaster ring. Then the carpenters could "fit up" the siding around that? Then the device would have a flat surface to fit on.....
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Thats an interesting idea.Thanx. I'll think about that and talk to the GC. I sure would like to avoid using a router if I can.:)
 
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