anybody ever tried this???

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Fulthrotl

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jill and i have a little hole in the wall italian place we like
to eat at. quiet, above average food, nice service.

it's a hole in the wall... i'm guessing 200 amp single
phase sub panel. strip mall. the voltage drop when
the garbage disposal or microwave kicks in takes all
the nicely dimmed incandescent lamps into the toilet.
they are already dimmed to maybe 60%, and any
voltage dips really shows.

anybody ever put a lighting circuit on a UPS to smooth
out this stuff? the bruchetta is great, the lighting sucks,
and it's all i can do to make it thru dinner without ripping
off his panel cover and throwing an amprobe on things.

any suggestions would help. it's getting difficult to make
it to dessert.


randy
 

steelersman

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Lake Ridge, VA
jill and i have a little hole in the wall italian place we like
to eat at. quiet, above average food, nice service.

it's a hole in the wall... i'm guessing 200 amp single
phase sub panel. strip mall. the voltage drop when
the garbage disposal or microwave kicks in takes all
the nicely dimmed incandescent lamps into the toilet.
they are already dimmed to maybe 60%, and any
voltage dips really shows.

anybody ever put a lighting circuit on a UPS to smooth
out this stuff? the bruchetta is great, the lighting sucks,
and it's all i can do to make it thru dinner without ripping
off his panel cover and throwing an amprobe on things.

any suggestions would help. it's getting difficult to make
it to dessert.


randy
I usually don't have room for dessert. Sorry no helpful info here. :)
 

Buck Parrish

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NC & IN
You know, it could be some thing as, to small a wire at the weather head.
Or a bad connection, somewhere.

I have tried to not work at some of my favorite hang outs. It seems I almost always have to answer electrical questions during my meal.:wink:
On the other hand some times the meal is free.

I would tell the owner to call the poco first . The problem may be on their end.
 

wireguru

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I doubt a UPS will like the load a dimmer presents to its output.

There are however, entertainment dimmers which can maintain a stable output even when the input voltage drops (cant boost though) the Electrol DX series does this. Probably too pricey for the place at about $2600 for a 12x 1.5kw per channel, or 6 x 2.4kw.
 

Karl H

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Location
San Diego,CA
jill and i have a little hole in the wall italian place we like
to eat at. quiet, above average food, nice service.

it's a hole in the wall... i'm guessing 200 amp single
phase sub panel. strip mall. the voltage drop when
the garbage disposal or microwave kicks in takes all
the nicely dimmed incandescent lamps into the toilet.
they are already dimmed to maybe 60%, and any
voltage dips really shows.

anybody ever put a lighting circuit on a UPS to smooth
out this stuff? the bruchetta is great, the lighting sucks,
and it's all i can do to make it thru dinner without ripping
off his panel cover and throwing an amprobe on things.

any suggestions would help. it's getting difficult to make
it to dessert.


randy

It's funny that you brought this up.My wife and I go
to this resturant that we love and everytime "Something"
cycles the lights dim.LIke every 5 minutes during dinner.
Drives me nuts then I drive my wife nuts makes for a great
evening. This place has great food and has every "Spot
the Violation" you can imagine.I think of this place as a
great meal and a NEC practice exam all in one. :D
 

quogueelectric

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Location
new york
It's funny that you brought this up.My wife and I go
to this resturant that we love and everytime "Something"
cycles the lights dim.LIke every 5 minutes during dinner.
Drives me nuts then I drive my wife nuts makes for a great
evening. This place has great food and has every "Spot
the Violation" you can imagine.I think of this place as a
great meal and a NEC practice exam all in one. :D

Now that is true love!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Karl H

Senior Member
Location
San Diego,CA
Peter you were very observant while you were here!
WE could use an electrician of your stature here.
Are you experienced running 300v cable up around palm trees?
 

peter d

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Location
New England
Peter you were very observant while you were here!
WE could use an electrician of your stature here.
Are you experienced running 300v cable up around palm trees?

LOL.

Well you know what happens when you go to visit your friends and they know you are an electrician. "Can you install.....?" Let's say I might have made a few hack jobs "west coast style" while I was visiting there. :D
 

Fulthrotl

~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
LOL.

Well you know what happens when you go to visit your friends and they know you are an electrician. "Can you install.....?" Let's say I might have made a few hack jobs "west coast style" while I was visiting there. :D

it isn't "west coast style" unless you are doing it wearing flip flops.
it's a rule we have here. sorry.

few years ago, a friend of mine was doing wal mart photo shop upgrades.
we crossed paths in las vegas, and i was helping him knock one out, so
we could go to dinner, and 'cause i was bored watching him work.

so, he comes walking in the door, and i am standing on the top step
of a 6' ladder, wearing flip flops.... the picture of OSHA compliance.....
peter, are you up to that....? west coast style is a tall order......:cool:


randy
 

iwire

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Location
Massachusetts
I would not jump to any conclusions, it takes darn little voltage sag for our eyes to see it in incandescent lamps. I would use some type of recording meter (Fluke 87 for me) and see what the actual dip is.
 
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