Anyone know a cheaper way ?

augie47

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The wording "cord and canopy" in 410.62 leads many inspectors to reject simply adding strain relief and requiring cord & plug unless the fixtures come with cord and canopy as some pendant type fixture do
 

wwhitney

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The wording "cord and canopy" in 410.62 leads many inspectors to reject simply adding strain relief and requiring cord & plug unless the fixtures come with cord and canopy as some pendant type fixture do
The wording in 410.62(C)(1) is broken. It consists of a series of "shall be permitted" sentences granting various allowances, and imposes no actual requirements. Since 400.10(A)(2) already provides a blanket allowance for the use of flexible cord and flexible cables for the "wiring of luminaires," it is never necessary to rely on the allowances of 410.62(C)(1).

Cheers, Wayne
 

augie47

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IMO 400.10 allows the use of cord but 410.62 gives requirements if the cord is used,.
In this area the inspectors have universally required cord and plug unless the fixture is equipped with factory cord and canopy.
 

wwhitney

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IMO 400.10 allows the use of cord but 410.62 gives requirements if the cord is used,.
I agree that 410.62 appears to have intended to impose requirements if cord is used, but the language used in 410.62(C)(1) is not language that can impose conditions. The wording is "shall be permitted" which only provides allowances, not requirements.

Cheers, Wayne
 

Smash

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There is no plug that comes with these I was attaching plugs and receptacles of the twist lock type. I also have lifts I’m not carrying nothing up a ladder. So you’re telling me I can hard wire their fixture whips right into the JB daisy fixture to fixture. It’s also like 16 gauge wire. I didn’t think that was allowed.
 

Smash

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Seems to me that is about as cheap as it gets.

There will be be $500 in rental of a lift.

Probably 150 labor hours.

Nice little job for you.
I have to get at least one articulating boom lift to get over racks of steel and steel cutting saws everywhere. That’s the time consuming part just getting set up where the fixture goes. Not exactly an open space not even close. Has to be done after hours as well. Crane runs constantly during week days
 

James L

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Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
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I have to get at least one articulating boom lift to get over racks of steel and steel cutting saws everywhere. That’s the time consuming part just getting set up where the fixture goes. Not exactly an open space not even close. Has to be done after hours as well. Crane runs constantly during week days
It sounds like the materials will be a drop in the bucket
 
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