Apprentice Shopping List

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George Stolz

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When I first started, I was handed a pretty cruddy shopping list. A while back, when a new apprentice walked in with automotive strippers and a pair of pliers I could pick my teeth with, I created a shopping list with pictures.

Thought I'd throw this out there for members to look at, mock, admire, throw darts at, whatever your heart desires. :)

This is geared toward residential. In the interests of faster page loading, I'm just posting the link. If you want to, you can use it. :D

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[ May 29, 2005, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
 
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Nice job George, however page 3 doesn't work!
I'm hoping that's the page with the wire strippers!

Dave

It works NOW. Might have been my error!?!?

Yep, good job.

[ May 29, 2005, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: davedottcom ]
 
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nice job geroge however I have a few questions/suggestions on your list. #1 can I buy a nail apron with two pouches in it rather then the pouch to hold materials.#2 I know there is a large residential contractor here who will not let his apprentices carry those whirlybird screwdrivers. something to the effect of over tightining receps into walls or something like that.#3 these kids are straight out of highschool does your company require them to have a bat drill and wormeater bits immediately or will you supply them with that material for the first 6 months.#4 if you wear eyeglasses you are required to wear goggles when normal safty glasses would be required
 
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George, I appreciate that list. Not too long ago I made up lists for 3 different levels of the trade for my company. I did an internet search back at that time, and came up with darned little "textbook" information on required tool lists. Your list nearly matches mine for an apprentice, although I would prefer they also have a 1/4 and 5/16 nut driver.

I am somewhat distressed to learn that you require that they provide their own hard hat and safety glasses. I thought that there was some sort of law that the employer must provide safety equipment if it is required for the job? Maybe I'm wrong.

I'd be interested in other guys' tool lists, if you care to post them or a link. I can post my lists too if anyone has an interest.
 
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Originally posted by southernboys:
#1 can I buy a nail apron with two pouches in it rather then the pouch to hold materials.
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True. I don't use a canvas pouch, but I do use a small holder that will carry my nines, a handfull of staples and a screwdriver when I'm roughing. I only wear my bags when I'm stripping out, or entering a service call where I might need any of my standard tools. :)

#2 I know there is a large residential contractor here who will not let his apprentices carry those whirlybird screwdrivers. something to the effect of over tightining receps into walls or something like that.
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Then that contractor's going to have to make his own list. :)

#3 these kids are straight out of highschool does your company require them to have a bat drill and wormeater bits immediately or will you supply them with that material for the first 6 months.
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Our employees are responsible for their own cordless drill, for trimming and other purposes. The company supplies Hole-Hawgs for roughing.

I couldn't find a 6" auger-bit picture online, so I just pasted a picture of an 18" auger bit with a 6" notation below it. I find it handy for popping holes for toggle bolts for fluorescents, and drilling in an attic in a pinch. Of course, now mine is duller than dishwater and in need of replacement. :)
 
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Originally posted by mdshunk:
Your list nearly matches mine for an apprentice, although I would prefer they also have a 1/4 and 5/16 nut driver.
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I was going to throw those on there, but I figured that was in the eye of the beholder. I geared the list towards someone who has no experience, a budget, and as a minimum for what you'd need to successfully make it through the first day without bumming tools. If the apprentice has any of the screwdrivers on the list, he can squeak by until after his first paycheck. :D

I am somewhat distressed to learn that you require that they provide their own hard hat and safety glasses. I thought that there was some sort of law that the employer must provide safety equipment if it is required for the job? Maybe I'm wrong.
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I don't know, I don't think so. Our company policy is, the employee provides their own.

I can post my lists too if anyone has an interest.
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Please do! :D
 
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I never did get the hang of those twisty screwdrivers. Plus, they don't really nest down in my pouch very well. I guess if you're used to them, they're fine. I pass on them.
 
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Here's the biggest one:

LEAD MAN REQUIRED TOOL LIST

Tool Pouch Klein 5165 or equivalent
Tool Pouch Belt Klein 5415 or equivalent
Parts Bag or
Canvas Nail Apron As available locally. For carrying wire nuts, cable
staples and conduit fittings on the person.
Lineman?s Pliers Klein D213-9NE or equivalent
Diagonal Cutting Pliers, Klein
Needle Nose Pliers, Klein
Straight Screwdrivers:
Big Klein 600-8 or equivalent
Medium Klein 600-6 or equivalent
Small Klein 600-4 or equivalent
Screw Holding Vaco K38 or equivalent
Phillips Screwdrivers:
#1 Klein 603-3 or equivalent
#2 Klein 603-4 or equivalent
#3 Klein 603-6 or equivalent
Screw Holding Vaco K19 or equivalent
Center Punch Klein 66-385 or equivalent
Wire Strippers Ideal 45-124 or equivalent
Crimpers:
Crimp Sleeves Buchannan C-24 or equivalent
Sta-kons/Fast-ons Greenlee 45500 or equivalent
Cable Hex Greenlee 46801 or equivalent
Cable Snap-n-Seal Thomas and Betts SNS or equivalent
Telephone Ideal 30-696 or equivalent
Lineman's, Burndy MD6-8
Nut Drivers:
9/16 Hollow Shaft Klein 630-9/16 or equivalent
?" Hollow Shaft Klein 630-1/2 or equivalent
7/16 Hollow Shaft Klein 630-7/16 or equivalent
3/8 Hollow Shaft Klein 630-3/8 or equivalent
11/32 Hollow Shaft Klein 630-11/32 or equivalent
5/16 Hollow Shaft Klein 630-5/16 or equivalent
?" Hollow Shaft Klein 630-1/4 or equivalent
Tap Tool Klein 627-20 or equivalent
Power Tap tool Greenlee DTAPKIT or equivalent
Tape Measure, 25? Stanley 33-599 or equivalent
Tape Measure, 100? Stanley 34-790 or equivalent
Folding Rule, 6? Lufkin X46 or Equivalent
Folding Rule, 8? Lufkin X48 or Equivalent
Utility Knife Stanley 099 or equivalent
Coax Stripper Ideal 45-165 or equivalent
Knockout punches Greenlee 7235BB or equivalent
Non-Contact Voltage Probe Fluke 1AC-A1 or equivalent
Neon tester As locally available
Solenoid voltage Tester Wiggington Industries 6610-VT1 or equivalent
Amp Meter Amprobe RS3 or equivalent
Digital MultiMeter Fluke Model 73 or equivalent
Phase Rotation Meter or equivalent
Analog MultiMeter Simpson 260 or equivalent
MegaOhm Meter Biddle Instruments MJ159 or equivalent
Needle Nose Pliers Klein D203 or equivalent
Adjustable Wrenches:
8" (2 pairs) Crescent AC-18V or equivalent
12" Crescent AC-112V or equivalent
Hammer Klein 807-18 or equivalent
Hammer Holder for
tool belt As locally available
Jab Saw Lennox BAS3636 or equivalent
Chalkline Strait-Line 64110 or equivalent
Plumb Bob Johnson 116 or equivalent
Adjustable Pliers
Medium (2 pairs) Channellock 430 or equivalent
Large Channellock 480 or equivalent
Cable Cutters:
Ratchet Klein 63-060 or equivalent
Large Klein 63-041 or equivalent
Hand Greenlee 727 or equivalent
Pipe Wrenches:
14" (2) Rigid 14/31020or equivalent
24" (2) Rigid 24/31030 or equivalent
Hexagon Rigid E-110 or equivalent
Hacksaw Frame Milwaukee 48-08-0320 or equivalent
Squares:
Combination Square Starrett 11HC-12-4R or equivalent
Framing Square Johnson CS7 or equivalent
Levels:
Torpedo Level Klein 931-9RE or equivalent
2? Level Johnson 3824 or equivalent
4? Level Johnson 3848 or equivalent
Fish Tape, 200? Greenlee 438-20 or equivalent
Hole Saws:
Electrician?s Kit Milwaukee 49-22-4086 or equivalent
3-3/8" Lennox Bi-Metal
3-5/8" Lennox Bi-Metal
4" Lennox Bi-Metal
4-1/8" Lennox Bi-Metal
4-3/8" Lennox Bi-Metal
Hole Saw Pilot Bits As locally available
PVC Cutter Greenlee 864 or equivalent
Square Drivers:
#1 Klein 661 or equivalent
#2 Klein 662 or equivalent
#3 Klein 663 or equivalent
Torx Drivers:
T15 Klein 19542 or equivalent
T20 Klein 19543 or equivalent
T25 Klein 19544 or equivalent
T27 Klein 19545 or equivalent
T30 Klein 19546 or equivalent
Rotary Cutout tool RotoZip Solaris or equivalent
Reciprocating Saw Milwaukee 6527-21 or equivalent
Cordless Hammer Drill Milwaukee 0624-24 or equivalent
Cordless Drill/Driver Makita 9.6V or equivalent
Hammer Drill Milwaukee 5377-6 or equivalent
Rotary Hammer Milwaukee 5321-21 or equivalent
Right Angle Drill Milwaukee 3701-6 or equivalent
PortaBand Milwaukee 6232-6 or equivalent
Socket Sets:
3/8" Drive Craftsman or equivalent
?" Drive Craftsman or equivalent
Torque Wrench, Inch pounds Craftsman or equivalent
Service Cable stripper Utility Tool 4x4 Plus or equivalent
Pry Bars (2) Stanley Wonder Bar or equivalent
Files:
Half Round Norton or equivalent
Rat Tail Norton or equivalent
File Handle(s) As locally Available
Stud Finder Zircon 56990 or equivalent
Hex Keys:
L Handle Eklind 10213 or equivalent
T Handle Eklind 53910 or equivalent
Flashlight Milwaukee 49-24-0160 or equivalent
Putty Knife Stanley 28-140 or equivalent
MC cable splitter SeaTek RotoSplit or equivalent
Conduit benders:
?" EMT Klein/Benfield 51211 or equivalent
?" EMT/?" Rigid Klein/Benfield 51212 or equivalent
1" EMT/?" Rigid Klein/Benfield 51213 or equivalent
Lineman?s Butt Set Harris/Dracon TS-30 or equivalent
Punch Down Tool Ideal 35-487 or equivalent
Telephone Banjo adapter Harris 10220-100-6 or equivalent
Tin Snips:
Left Malco AV1 or equivalent
Right Malco AV2 or equivalent
Straight Malco AV3 or equivalent
Offset Bender, ?" Greenlee 1810 or equivalent
Offset Bender, ?" Greenlee 1811 or equivalent
Cold Chisel, ?" Stanley/PROTO 86034 or equivalent
Drilling Hammer, 2lb. Estwing B3-2LB or equivalent
 
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And how do you expect to get through a day's work wothout the most important tool of them all?

YOUR SIDE CUTTERS
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My searches for side cutters only turned up Lineman's. I guess you have to call them diagonal cutters now.

[ May 29, 2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
 
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Originally posted by physis:
My searches for side cutters only turned up Lineman's. I guess you have to call them diagonal cutters now.
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I don't know. I've been in this trade for about 16 years now, and I always considered 'sidecutters' and lineman's pliers' the same thing. The only thing I know 'diagonal cutting pliers' by is 'dikes'. I guess it depends on how you grew up.

[ May 29, 2005, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: mdshunk ]
 
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Originally posted by mdshunk:
Here's the biggest one:

LEAD MAN REQUIRED TOOL LIST
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Shoot I have been a lead man for a long time now and do not have many things on that list.

I expect the company I work for to supply 75% of that list. :D
 
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I had two previous jobs in which I was not permitted to have ANY of my own tools on the job; not even hand tools. That was pretty nice, but sometimes you get used to using your own "gadgets".
 
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I'm with Bob, after reading that list I'd be on my way to a new job. Is that a list of things you would expect a leadman to purchase?
 
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LEAD MAN REQUIRED TOOL LIST
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All's thats missing is the van and ladders.

What no Ultra Tugger??? :roll:

With all those tools you might as well start your own shop.
 
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Originally posted by iwire:

Shoot I have been a lead man for a long time now and do not have many things on that list.
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Sure you do Iwire, if you have a pair of "diagonal cutters" , You have the "Equivilent" to about 85% of the items on that list!
:)

Dave

Editted the word "sidecutters" to "diagonal cutters" so Sam doesn't get confused!

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By Dave:

if you have a pair of sidecutters, You have the "Equivilent" to about 85% of the items on that list! :D
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That is absolutely correct Dave. As long as you're refering to the now only refered to as diagonal cutters side cutters. :D
 
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Originally posted by davedottcom:
Any empoyee that owns all those tools is a fool to work For anyone. All they need is a truck and a license to be their own company!
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It's a good starting point for someone that doesn't have such a list. It would be easier to delete items from that list than add. Yes, I suppose if you added ladders, scaffolds, vans, hydraulic tools, hot line tools, and power pullers, that would be a respectable "owner's list".

[ May 29, 2005, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: mdshunk ]
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