Apprentice Shopping List
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mdshunk
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You might be smarter than the rest of us. It's a shame to see a zillion dollar cam track bender collecting dust in the shop.
davedottcom
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Dave
Sounds like a personal problem!
Dave
davedottcom
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I'm still chuckling a little!
Dave
I'm still chuckling a little!
Dave
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Hospital Master Electrician
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allenwayne
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That leadman list is quite extensive
That leadman list is quite extensive
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I have 2 different wire strippers in my tool pouch. One of them is the actual wire strippers which has the stripping holes between the jaws. Wire stripping holes between the handles does not work. However, it just is NOT a good crimper for #22 to #10 wire.
The other pair of "strippers" is what I use for cripming. It is no good for wire stripping.
I also have 2 different sizes of beat up or cheap Chinese screwdrivers fo doing knockouts and locknuts.
My attitudes about buying Cheap Chinese tools are:
1. Chinamen need to eat too.
2. The best way to bring democracy and freedom to China is to show them what a little bit of capitalism and freedom will do for them. Then, they will demand more.
3. The steel in Chinese tools rusts less than a lot of American made tools that I have had. A good grade of steel without any surface coating rusts less than aluminum. The reason why manhole covers, locomotives, railraod rails, dump trucks, garbage trucks, yada yada have alomost zero rust is because they are made of better steel.
A better grade of steel does not really cost that much extra since some people are willing to pay for it. However, a car that takes 50 years to rust away like railcars do would be "bad for business".
I have 2 different wire strippers in my tool pouch. One of them is the actual wire strippers which has the stripping holes between the jaws. Wire stripping holes between the handles does not work. However, it just is NOT a good crimper for #22 to #10 wire.
The other pair of "strippers" is what I use for cripming. It is no good for wire stripping.
I also have 2 different sizes of beat up or cheap Chinese screwdrivers fo doing knockouts and locknuts.
My attitudes about buying Cheap Chinese tools are:
1. Chinamen need to eat too.
2. The best way to bring democracy and freedom to China is to show them what a little bit of capitalism and freedom will do for them. Then, they will demand more.
3. The steel in Chinese tools rusts less than a lot of American made tools that I have had. A good grade of steel without any surface coating rusts less than aluminum. The reason why manhole covers, locomotives, railraod rails, dump trucks, garbage trucks, yada yada have alomost zero rust is because they are made of better steel.
A better grade of steel does not really cost that much extra since some people are willing to pay for it. However, a car that takes 50 years to rust away like railcars do would be "bad for business".
brian john
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- Kilmarnock, Va
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- Retired after 52 years in the trade.
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It has always been my opinion that green apprentices are the lowest paid (DUH) of the lot and have not a clue what to buy. When an apprentice starts at my company I purchase them all tools I feel they will need, if the stay more than a year then the tools are theirs. If the leave prior to one year I get the tools back or deduct them from their last pay check. I have never had a problem with apprentices leaving within the one year period.
It has always been my opinion that green apprentices are the lowest paid (DUH) of the lot and have not a clue what to buy. When an apprentice starts at my company I purchase them all tools I feel they will need, if the stay more than a year then the tools are theirs. If the leave prior to one year I get the tools back or deduct them from their last pay check. I have never had a problem with apprentices leaving within the one year period.
petersonra
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- Location
- Northern illinois
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- Semi-retired engineer
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isn't it better for people to supply their own hard hat and safety glasses? most people have their own preferences along these lines, and they are so inexpensive these days, that it seems silly to supply them. go buy your won. same with safety shoes. you need shoes anyway. maybe in a technical way employers are required to provide these items, but since you can get a very servicable set of safety glasses, hard hat, and safety shoes for under $100 , it seems silly to require an employer to pay for them.
luke warmwater
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How do you slip that by the accountant??
Brian, I don't have a problem with it, but that's technically against the law.
How do you slip that by the accountant??
davedottcom
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In the past, I had 2 different employers that "Managed" a "tool account" for all thier employees. They would purchase the tools for us and we could decide how much to be taken out of our checks every week. I believe it was listed as an "Advance in pay" on our checks for the sake of payroll & accountants? They would do the same for any material we needed for personal use also. As long as everything is correct, and accounted for I don't see why it would be unlawful. I guess I could blow the dust off of my 50lb Contractor's Manual and look it up!
Dave
In the past, I had 2 different employers that "Managed" a "tool account" for all thier employees. They would purchase the tools for us and we could decide how much to be taken out of our checks every week. I believe it was listed as an "Advance in pay" on our checks for the sake of payroll & accountants? They would do the same for any material we needed for personal use also. As long as everything is correct, and accounted for I don't see why it would be unlawful. I guess I could blow the dust off of my 50lb Contractor's Manual and look it up!
Dave
sandsnow
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- Southern California
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Has anyone mentioned a headlamp?
I wish I had one way back when. Keeps your hands free. Great for crawling in attics. Can be attached to your hard hat.
They have some really light weight ones now, LED, etc. Runs on AA batteries
Has anyone mentioned a headlamp?
I wish I had one way back when. Keeps your hands free. Great for crawling in attics. Can be attached to your hard hat.
They have some really light weight ones now, LED, etc. Runs on AA batteries
brian john
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- Location
- Kilmarnock, Va
- Occupation
- Retired after 52 years in the trade.
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Our employees agree to the purchase at the time of hiring.
Our employees agree to the purchase at the time of hiring.
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Hospital Master Electrician
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I have one in my truck. Real handy when I remember it's there.
I have one in my truck. Real handy when I remember it's there.
jwelectric
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- Location
- North Carolina
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A 5/16 and 3/16 straight a no. 2 Phillips pair of 9 in. lineman strippers utility knife and 6 ft rule. Don?t want to kill him carrying around to much weight. What is his baggiest job anyway? Go fetch!
A 5/16 and 3/16 straight a no. 2 Phillips pair of 9 in. lineman strippers utility knife and 6 ft rule. Don?t want to kill him carrying around to much weight. What is his baggiest job anyway? Go fetch!
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