Aprenticeship or Not

[Alwayslearningelec]

Yeah I went to their website. Thanks.

 

[peter d]

LADWP, los angeles, ca.
scale's good, but the pension's the thing.
3 year apprenticeship.
an old working partner is there now.
keeps calling me up, telling me to get in.
$40 an hour on the check, he's grossing 110k a year.
pension can amount to 90% of highest classification
every held, with cost of living increases, and lifetime
medical. double dipping is allowed, and encouraged.

i've worked with high school graduates who are lifers
at LADWP, retired with a pension, working as exempt
workers, who between the pension and their exempt
wages, make over $200,000 a year. it happens.

LADWP is a municipally owned utility, the largest in the country in fact. When I read stuff like that it makes me sick. Not that line workers shouldn't be making $40 or more an hour - they should. But making over $200K a year working for a public utility is outrageous. IMO of course.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

But if you are paid by the hour and make about $40 you(for the most part) have to work ABOUT 70-80 hours a week. Isn't that the way it works? Not like your working a 40 hour week making 200k.

 

[iwire]

But if you are paid by the hour and make about $40 you(for the most part) have to work ABOUT 70-80 hours a week. Isn't that the way it works? Not like your working a 40 hour week making 200k.

The person making 200K is not working 70-80 hrs, they are collecting a pension and working some hours.

i've worked with high school graduates who are lifers
at LADWP, retired with a pension, working as exempt
workers, who between the pension and their exempt
wages, make over $200,000 a year. it happens.

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

I see the previous thread. My oversight.

 

[quogueelectric]

I would start at around $17 an hour and to off at around $43 for a journeyman. My goal would be to get back into the office after becoming a journeyman with already having about 4 years experience as an estimator. I can handle the pay cut.

44.75 for jman 15.66 1st period apprentice.

 

[Fulthrotl]

LADWP is a municipally owned utility, the largest in the country in fact. When I read stuff like that it makes me sick. Not that line workers shouldn't be making $40 or more an hour - they should. But making over $200K a year working for a public utility is outrageous. IMO of course.

it *does* seem a bit excessive, doesn't it?

my toolie who is there is making about $46 per hour plus bennies,
plus a fair amount of overtime, and some travel.

he's testing for senior in his department, which will bump him another
15%

the last time i worked there, was 5 years ago, and it grossed me $85k
for 10 months work. i made the smallest amount of money in my crew,
due to the luck of the draw on tasking, and overtime. as an exempt
employee.

getting in there isn't easy. 3 years ago, i tested for electrical mechanic,
and there were 8,500 tested. this was for 25 job openings.

see the results below for my ranking among the 8,500 tested,
and then realize that my ranking was *NOT* high enough to be
offered a position.

there was a three way tie for first with 95%
there waa a two way tie for second with 94%

that wasn't good enough, as you were still behind all the
lame civil servants who got lower scores than you, but have
senority. not much of this is based on merit, most of it is based
on endurance.

YMMV.

randy

 

[Cow]

there was a three way tie for first with 95%
there waa a two way tie for second with 94%

that wasn't good enough, as you were still behind all the
lame civil servants who got lower scores than you, but have
senority. not much of this is based on merit, most of it is based
on endurance.

So let me see, you were tied for 2nd, you were one of the top 5 scorers overall, and you didn't get in?!?! If you didn't get in, we can assume the other 2nd place finisher didn't make it either. That tells me for 25 positions available, at most the top 3 1st place scorers might have made it in, and the other 22 positions were filled with civil servants. It seems that test is for keeping the "equal opportunity employer" people happy. Although very few, if any, applicants are actually hired after taking that test, when they know almost all of the positions will be filled by the civil servants anyway regardless of test score.

Is that not total BS? Not to mention the time 8500 people wasted taking that test with no chance in the world of getting in....

 

[Fulthrotl]

So let me see, you were tied for 2nd, you were one of the top 5 scorers overall, and you didn't get in?!?! If you didn't get in, we can assume the other 2nd place finisher didn't make it either. That tells me for 25 positions available, at most the top 3 1st place scorers might have made it in, and the other 22 positions were filled with civil servants. It seems that test is for keeping the "equal opportunity employer" people happy. Although very few, if any, applicants are actually hired after taking that test, when they know almost all of the positions will be filled by the civil servants anyway regardless of test score.

Is that not total BS? Not to mention the time 8500 people wasted taking that test with no chance in the world of getting in....

yeah... like a tree trimmer with parks and recs who has 15 years trimming
shrubs, and got a 71% on the exam..... he'll go first.

none of the outside people were selected on that round.