ARC Fault puzzle

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Well that proves it , once again, YOU CAN"T FIX STUPID !
The only way to get people to stop putting boxes in bad locations is to make them fix the problem they created with out pay. This will not happen until they work for them self , by that time they will be here complaining about how the guys working for them are not thinking about what they are doing :smile:
 
craig65 said:
found the problem... defective electrician. There was a j box behind the fridge with the neutrals were crossed. It seems these 5 rooms were wired by temp help that did not follow the as built print. :mad: :mad:
Bottom line poor foreman.. you MUST check on you help.
the result
16 hours spent on a non issue. The flash lights were not enough of a load the trip the archs right away...over time the resistors charged and triped the archs. after the first time the archs the read it as a fault and just a kept on trippin'
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Good find.

Arc faults don't need to have a load to work, that's the reason that they are used to protect the "branch circuit wiring". There are still electrons flowing around those wires whether something is plugged in or not.
 
Maybe someone can explain this one I have rewired two seperate houses in the last 3 weeks, I installed ark fault breakers in both homes, both homes are on the oppeset side of town from each other, But at both locations I can not get the ark fault berakers to trip, The local electrical inspector could not get them to trip with his tester, at both locations I took a new ark fault breaker and removed the panel cover ( both new services also) hooked it to a outlet hanging from the panel and could not get my tester to trip the breaker the tester says the wiring is correct, I then tried a different brand of breaker and still the same results, now the local inspector and I both have the same 50 dollar tester that allowes you to push a button to trip the ark fault breakers both do not work, but if you push the test button on the breaker it trips, and of corse the local inspector will not give me a final if his tester will not trip the breakers, I showed the local inspector that the outlet attached directly to the new arc fault breaker at the panel would not trip and he was puzzeled, he told me to call the power company, now what I am wondering is are the new ark fault breakers less senistive? I tried ge and seamons breakers and even bought different one from another supply house, so now where do I go with this?
 
Dennis Alwon said:
A JB behind the fridge on new construction. What were they thinking? Talk about the last place to look. I 'd rather take down Stickboy's wall sconce over the stair then deal with having to move a refrigerator....:grin:
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Hey, that hurt man... :grin:
 
billsnuff said:
i thought the only 'legit' test for afci and gfci is the test button on the device. JMSO though, see what the others have to say.
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AFAIK, you are correct. At least, it is the only one recognized by the manufacterers and UL.
 
electricmanscott said:
I hope you also provided oxygen. That was a loooonggg sentence.
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That sentence only had 256 words??? What's the problem? :grin:

Here you go. Try again

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I have one thing to share - just something I have noticed with absolutely nothing in way of proof to back it up.... I have noticed more problems on 208/120 than I have on 240/120.... Another factor in that for me has been most of the buldings from 208 have been in MC.... or combinations of conduit....

What would putting a logger unit do other than trip the AFCI immediately? I wonder if what ever it was tripping them would show up on a scope?
 
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