Article 725 Confusing

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Is it just me or does Article 725 jump around a lot (more than the rest of the Code)? Trying to follow the Class 1,2 and 3 circuit requirments for the Master Electrical test... just praying that there isn't a lot of low voltage questions!!
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Article 725 is one of the worst examples of law writing in existence. It is complete garbage. In the older versions, about 1996, it defined the three clases in confusing terms of VA [volt-amperages], but I believe that in later versions, the idiot code panel simply deleted these definitions. Thus, the entire article is now about something that is undefined.
In other words, an intelligent person can read the entire article and not know what it is talking about.
Class I devices are those which say they are Class 1 devices. [I think an example would be fire alarms.]
Class 2 devices are those that state they are Class 2 devices. Typical is a wall wart.
Class 3 is of doubtful existence. That's because I can't think of any thing which would dare to call itself "Class 3". But it doesn't seem to matter since Class 3 seems to be treated the same as Class 2 anyway.
The main importance of this article is to slightly relax certain rules since these devices or systems are presumed to have lower risk of fire and/or shock. Thus you can have more wires in a fire alarm conduit since they tend to be low amperage. And the other classes can be treated like telephone or data lines. But don't quote me on this.
~Peter
 
Peter,
Many motor control circuit and other industrial control circuits are Class 1 circuits. Also the Classes are still defined in Table 11A and B in Chapter 9.
Don
 
Mike Holt provided a free pdf book on that chapter about a year ago. I have a copy, but would not upload it without express permission from the author. Perhaps there is a link to it somewhere hereabouts. Moderators?
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
Peter,
Many motor control circuit and other industrial control circuits are Class 1 circuits. Also the Classes are still defined in Table 11A and B in Chapter 9.
Don

Ok, If I think of Class 1 or 725.21 part B as motor control control circuits (in some cases) it helps. And part A as less than 30 volts, as 24 volt controls for HVAC circuits for example it kind of makes sense. I have the Mike Holt books Illustrated Code parts 1 & 2 for 2005 Code. B.G.
 
Like most different Articles and Parts within Articles, there is information that is confusing to the casual reader, especially when your experience and knowledge of the topic is lacking. Art 725 is a part of our industry that is seeing explosive growth, and the NEC changes as it can, but sometimes cannot keep up with the growth... therefore the wording is such that the CMPs try to make a "catchall" until a proposal helps to iron out the "details"

With the lack of experience any Article can become confusing.
 
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