Bad NJ Electrical Inspectors

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Fight it if you'll never have to deal with this again. If you will be working in his area on future jobs, choose your battles wisely. Inspectors have bigger egos than electricians! LOL They really get off thinking they have taught you something. Sometimes its better to eat it and have peace for future inspections. How do I know this? I've lived through this one! :)
 
Fight it if you'll never have to deal with this again. If you will be working in his area on future jobs, choose your battles wisely. Inspectors have bigger egos than electricians! LOL They really get off thinking they have taught you something. Sometimes its better to eat it and have peace for future inspections. How do I know this? I've lived through this one! :)
Not all of us are idiots!

Ron
 
I had an electrician call me for a failed rough inspection in a municipality in central New Jersey. It was for a rough inspection on a new single family home. The violation was for " Fire caulk not compliant" 210.52. I told him to call him and ask for the exact code citation. Then call the DCA.
 
I had an electrician call me for a failed rough inspection in a municipality in central New Jersey. It was for a rough inspection on a new single family home. The violation was for " Fire caulk not compliant" 210.52. I told him to call him and ask for the exact code citation. Then call the DCA.
Did he use the proper fire caulk? What does 210.52 have to do with fire stop?
 
If we are talking single family the "fire caulk" is not used. In this context it is just draft stopping and regular foam is used.
 
Thats my point 210.52 has nothing to do with fire caulk, and the town I inspect in the Building Inspector does the fire penetration inspection on the insulation inspection.
 
Fight it if you'll never have to deal with this again. If you will be working in his area on future jobs, choose your battles wisely. Inspectors have bigger egos than electricians! LOL They really get off thinking they have taught you something. Sometimes its better to eat it and have peace for future inspections. How do I know this? I've lived through this one! :)
I'm not in agreement with you on this. There is a way to state your case RESPECTFULLY and not burn a bridge while doing so. If you're wrong - you're wrong and you should admit it, but if you're right and you have the backing of a State authority then your case is solid. The next time you are on a job with that same inspector he can either recognize that you're not going down without a fight or cite you for some picayune violation just to break your chops. If that trend continues make sure you have ACCURATE documentation on all the jobs he's cited you on and you can then file a complaint with the town administrator. At that point you'll burn the bridge. :cool:
 
I'm not in agreement with you on this. There is a way to state your case RESPECTFULLY and not burn a bridge while doing so. If you're wrong - you're wrong and you should admit it, but if you're right and you have the backing of a State authority then your case is solid. The next time you are on a job with that same inspector he can either recognize that you're not going down without a fight or cite you for some picayune violation just to break your chops. If that trend continues make sure you have ACCURATE documentation on all the jobs he's cited you on and you can then file a complaint with the town administrator. At that point you'll burn the bridge. :cool:
I agree especially when the violation or in this case the non-violation is black and white. This inspector is 100% wrong. This is not an interpretation of "nearest" or "subject to physical damage", this is just a guy who doesn't know the code.
 
I'm not in agreement with you on this. There is a way to state your case RESPECTFULLY and not burn a bridge while doing so. If you're wrong - you're wrong and you should admit it, but if you're right and you have the backing of a State authority then your case is solid. The next time you are on a job with that same inspector he can either recognize that you're not going down without a fight or cite you for some picayune violation just to break your chops. If that trend continues make sure you have ACCURATE documentation on all the jobs he's cited you on and you can then file a complaint with the town administrator. At that point you'll burn the bridge. :cool:
We can agree to disagree on this one. When I started in the trade in the early 80's, I worked for a company in Orlando that had contracts with several large home builders. I proved an inspector wrong on a minor issue, went over his head to the chief electrical inspector and got it overturned. The inspector in question was assigned to this area and I had to work with him for the next 2 - 3 years. I remember getting turned down for 1 nailplate at times if the hole in the stud measured 1 1/8" from the face of the stud. If I wasn't 100% complete with the rough-in but called in the inspection anyway, he would never budge and fail the job and charge a re-inspection fee. He picked my jobs apart where most inspectors would let small items go. That's why I say choose your battles wisely if you have to continue to work with certain inspectors. They can find something to turn your job down and cost you another day. Sometimes it's just not worth it.
 
Report him.
He rejections at this point were correct. He started inspecting my jobs so much more critical. If any aspect of my house wasn't code compliant in a way that most inspectors let go, he would call me on it. Most inspectors can find a reason to turn you down if they really want to, especially in residential. There are so many little nit-picky codes.
 
He rejections at this point were correct. He started inspecting my jobs so much more critical. If any aspect of my house wasn't code compliant in a way that most inspectors let go, he would call me on it. Most inspectors can find a reason to turn you down if they really want to, especially in residential. There are so many little nit-picky codes.
That reminds me:

Around 40 years ago, after a house fire (no, not electrical), I rewired the house top to bottom. I hadn't told the inspector that I was an electrician, so he mentioned that he would need to inspect a homeowner's work more closely.

We got along well, friendly and respectfully, and joshed back and forth on whether he would find something to fail. When we walked the house at final, he opened the closet by the front door last, saw a pull-string, and said "Aha!"

He pulled the string, expecting a bare bulb. I had put a 4' fluorescent strip on the wall over the doors, drilled a hole in the middle of the bottom surface, and put in a pull-chain switch, so the string was accessible from either side.

He was a little disappointed, but he was impressed with my work. Only then did I tell him that I was licensed, and he laughed, but added that he still found my work to be better than what he's used to seeing in the field. :giggle:
 
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