basement recept

[jetlag]

as you know an unfinished basement requires at least 1 gfci outlet . Is it okay to install this on a stud wall with nail on plastic box and nm coming down center of stud left exposed.

 

[480sparky]

As long as 334.15 is satisfied.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

as you know an unfinished basement requires at least 1 gfci outlet . Is it okay to install this on a stud wall with nail on plastic box and nm coming down center of stud left exposed.

Just to clarify that all recep. in an unfinished basement must be GFCI protected excep. for one feeding a fire or burglar alarm.

 

[jetlag]

thanks spark

thanks spark

As long as 334.15 is satisfied.

yea its usually on the masonry wall and I use conduit for that but I dont see anything about on a stud wall with no wall covering in basement.

 

[raider1]

As long as 334.15 is satisfied.

I would say that if the NM cable follows the stud then 334.15(A) may be satisified.

Chris

 

[jetlag]

thanks dennis

thanks dennis

Just to clarify that all recep. in an unfinished basement must be GFCI protected excep. for one feeding a fire or burglar alarm.

The code doesnt care is gfci trips and freezer full of food rots , but we cant have no fire alarm that is tripped , at least they know where to draw the line

 

[jetlag]

I would say that if the NM cable follows the stud then 334.15(A) may be satisified.

Chris

If the ahj wants conduit I am screwed because I couldnt get thru the plate above I had go thru plate around corner and get the nm thru the corner stud then down to outlet 4 ft above floor. I had some mc cable but didnt want to have to set a j box to go back to n m. oh forgot I dont think mc will pass

 

[George Stolz]

It sounds as though an excess of thought is taking place, without having seen the situation.

 

[480sparky]

If the ahj wants conduit I am screwed because I couldnt get thru the plate above I had go thru plate around corner and get the nm thru the corner stud then down to outlet 4 ft above floor. I had some mc cable but didnt want to have to set a j box to go back to n m. oh forgot I dont think mc will pass

If it's exposed, why do you have to got through the top plate?

 

[George Stolz]

Probably to ease the burden on the next guy when the basement is finished.

 

[jetlag]

If it's exposed, why do you have to got through the top plate?

got through , thats worse than me abbreviate thru for through . I had to got thru because It will be dry wall later :-?

 

[jetlag]

thanks george

thanks george

Probably to ease the burden on the next guy when the basement is finished.

The next guy is me , my own house , the basement will be finished later

 

[480sparky]

Probably to ease the burden on the next guy when the basement is finished.

Pull the pipe off, and the NM should still have the sheath on it.

 

[jetlag]

thanks spark

thanks spark

Pull the pipe off, and the NM should still have the sheath on it.

I see what you mean if he wants conduit i can pull out and surface mount and not go thru plate , when ready to finish my holes are there already

 

[readydave8]

Use up some sheetrock or plywood scrap and cover stud to stud the bay the wire is in. Use screws and take back down when you put finish on wall.

 

[1793]

Use up some sheetrock or plywood scrap and cover stud to stud the bay the wire is in. Use screws and take back down when you put finish on wall.

This is what some of the Inspectors in my area require or use a GFI breaker and no need to "protect" the NM.

 

[jetlag]

thanks readydave

thanks readydave

Use up some sheetrock or plywood scrap and cover stud to stud the bay the wire is in. Use screws and take back down when you put finish on wall.

Best answer yet , the install is already there and I only have to do top half of stud the box is above the center perlin ? Shucks I kin slap that there rock on thar in notin flat

 

[jetlag]

This is what some of the Inspectors in my area require or use a GFI breaker and no need to "protect" the NM.

Im not sure if the wire protection is it , most of the time the required GFCI in an unfinished basement will be on the masonry wall and protected with emt up to above the ceiling level. Strangely enough you can finish a basement and not cover the masonry walls except with paint and the GFCI is not required.

 

[pete m.]

Im not sure if the wire protection is it , most of the time the required GFCI in an unfinished basement will be on the masonry wall and protected with emt up to above the ceiling level. Strangely enough you can finish a basement and not cover the masonry walls except with paint and the GFCI is not required.

FWIW, as far as protection against physical damage and the NEC is concerned EMT isn't one of the listed methods (unless, of course, the AHJ likes it)... no more than the flex i see ran to conceal the nm cable to furnaces and water heaters.

Pete

 

[jetlag]

FWIW, as far as protection against physical damage and the NEC is concerned EMT isn't one of the listed methods (unless, of course, the AHJ likes it)... no more than the flex i see ran to conceal the nm cable to furnaces and water heaters.

Pete

I wont take time to find the code now but I have to disagree that emt provides no physical protection . There is a code that allows it down to outlets on a masonry wall and also allows it for nail protection .