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After reading another post it seems a dwelling bath requires a dedicated circuit to gfci. Is this true? I thought it only required GFCI for vanity. The only dedicated circuits i know are 2 for kitchen and one for laundry..
 
Take a look at 210.11(C)(3).

This section requires at least one 20 amp branch circuit to supply bathroom receptacle outlet(s).

Chris
 
jetlag said:
After reading another post it seems a dwelling bath requires a dedicated circuit to gfci. Is this true?
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What post would that be?

(Some of us are having trouble seeing the "New Posts" ....can you post a link to the thread?)
 
LarryFine said:
The options are either bath receptacles only or one bathroom only.
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In other words all the bath receptacles in all the bathrooms can be on the same circuit or you may have all the lights, recep, etc in one bathroom on one circuit but the circuit cannot go any further than the bath it feeds.
 
jetlag said:
After reading another post it seems a dwelling bath requires a dedicated circuit to gfci. Is this true? I thought it only required GFCI for vanity. The only dedicated circuits i know are 2 for kitchen and one for laundry..
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Don't mean to sound picky, but sometimes terminology makes a difference when communicating. For example, the NEC does not define a ?dedicated? branch circuit. They define it as an ?individual? branch circuit.

I and everyone else here knew what you meant, just throwing it out there. :grin:
 
Dennis Alwon said:
In other words all the bath receptacles in all the bathrooms can be on the same circuit or you may have all the lights, recep, etc in one bathroom on one circuit but the circuit cannot go any further than the bath it feeds.
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This is the law. It seems pretty obvious to me.
 
sparky_magoo said:
This is the law. It seems pretty obvious to me.
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I was stating Larry's post more clearly. I was not asking a question-- sorry I was not clear. It is obvious to me also.
 
NEC is not black and white.It is confusing.You dont get all the answers by simply looking at "bathrooms" wish it was that easy.There are 2 ways and then deal with gfi
 
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celtic said:
What post would that be?

(Some of us are having trouble seeing the "New Posts" ....can you post a link to the thread?)
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Thanks for all replies, will try to respond to several now. The thread I was refering to is "Dwelling unit or not " by stuartdmc. I didnt word my original post as well as could have. One reply stated I refered to the bath as dedicated circuit, but that is what it was called in the other thread and was part of my question. I knew it was an individual branch circuit. I also understand 210.11 (c) (3) but was trying to see if the 20 a bath circuit is suppose to be added to the loads for the house? Ive never seen this done before, only the 1500 va for 2 kitchen an 1 laundry.
 
jetlag said:
I also understand 210.11 (c) (3) but was trying to see if the 20 a bath circuit is suppose to be added to the loads for the house? Ive never seen this done before, only the 1500 va for 2 kitchen an 1 laundry.
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No, the 20 amp bath circuit is included in the 3 watts per sq. ft. It is not necessary to add it in again.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
No, the 20 amp bath circuit is included in the 3 watts per sq. ft. It is not necessary to add it in again.
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Agreed,

No additional load is required to added to the service calculations for the bathroom receptacle circuit, just the required laundry and small appliance branch circuits.

Chris
 
220.14(J) Dwelling Occupancies. In one-family, two-family, and multifamily dwellings and in guest rooms or guest suites of hotels and motels, the outlets specified in (J)(1), (J)(2), and (J)(3) are included in the general lighting load calculations of 220.12. No additional load calculations shall be required for such outlets.
(1) All general-use receptacle outlets of 20-ampere rating or less, including receptacles connected to the circuits in 210.11(C)(3)
 
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