Bath exhaust fans
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jimwalker
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- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: Bath exhaust fans
Not gonna say if you can or can't use it ,but would love to see the article in NEC
I would call his bluff on this one
Not gonna say if you can or can't use it ,but would love to see the article in NEC
I would call his bluff on this one
speedypetey
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- Hudson Valley, NY
Re: Bath exhaust fans
How on earth could the code book for electrical wiring and installation cove an air duct? This would be my question to him. Aside from; "Um, now which article is that?"
How on earth could the code book for electrical wiring and installation cove an air duct? This would be my question to him. Aside from; "Um, now which article is that?"
ryan_618
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- Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Bath exhaust fans
I don't see anything in the IRC that addresses it either. I would definitley ask for a code reference.
I don't see anything in the IRC that addresses it either. I would definitley ask for a code reference.
jxofaltrds
Inspector Mike®
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- Mike P. Columbus Ohio
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- ESI, PI, RBO
Re: Bath exhaust fans
250.80.(g) Other Plastic Piping. Interior plastic piping that may become energized shall be bonded to the service equipment enclosure. The bonding jumper shall be sized in accordance with Table 250.95 using the rating of the circuit that may energize the piping.
Mike P.
250.80.(g) Other Plastic Piping. Interior plastic piping that may become energized shall be bonded to the service equipment enclosure. The bonding jumper shall be sized in accordance with Table 250.95 using the rating of the circuit that may energize the piping.
Mike P.
ryan_618
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- Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Bath exhaust fans
Mike isn't your inspector, is he?
Mike isn't your inspector, is he?
jxofaltrds
Inspector Mike®
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Re: Bath exhaust fans
Ryan
This site is designed for:
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Mike P.
Ryan
This site is designed for:
Contractors
Electricians
Engineers
Inspectors
Instructors
Other electrically related individuals
Mike P.
al hildenbrand
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- Minnesota
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- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
Re: Bath exhaust fans
Boy,
I had to look up 250.80(G). Good thing I did. I'd also overlooked 250.80(F) which discusses bonding of skyhooks and 250.80(E) for where to bond snipe.
Boy,
I had to look up 250.80(G). Good thing I did. I'd also overlooked 250.80(F) which discusses bonding of skyhooks and 250.80(E) for where to bond snipe.
jxofaltrds
Inspector Mike®
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- Mike P. Columbus Ohio
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Re: Bath exhaust fans
Roger
I know. I want him to print this post to show the inspector.
I want him, and I know if he does this it will harm him, show the inspector what an idiot he is?
Roger you are correct to defend others. It was not my intent to attack the poster, rather to show the ignorance of the inspector.
Mike P.
Roger
I know. I want him to print this post to show the inspector.
I want him, and I know if he does this it will harm him, show the inspector what an idiot he is?
Roger you are correct to defend others. It was not my intent to attack the poster, rather to show the ignorance of the inspector.
Mike P.
Re: Bath exhaust fans
how much are they gettin for them skyhooks up in Minnesota??
oh, and down here, they fail the mechanical permit on any exhaust fan problems. Therefore, I'm now out of the fan business.
We just connect the electric to them, like we do the heat pump/condenser and the air handler.
The AC man provides and installs them as well
how much are they gettin for them skyhooks up in Minnesota??
oh, and down here, they fail the mechanical permit on any exhaust fan problems. Therefore, I'm now out of the fan business.
We just connect the electric to them, like we do the heat pump/condenser and the air handler.
The AC man provides and installs them as well
jxofaltrds
Inspector Mike®
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- Mike P. Columbus Ohio
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- ESI, PI, RBO
Re: Bath exhaust fans
Columbus and the boys mother are trying to settle.
Link below provided by
Gerald Tudor,
Chief Electrical Inspector, City of Columbus, OH
http://utilities.ci.columbus.oh.us/electricity/Reports/Street%20Light%20report.pdf
This was (is) a comprehensive report.
Mike P.
Columbus and the boys mother are trying to settle.
Link below provided by
Gerald Tudor,
Chief Electrical Inspector, City of Columbus, OH
http://utilities.ci.columbus.oh.us/electricity/Reports/Street%20Light%20report.pdf
This was (is) a comprehensive report.
Mike P.
Re: Bath exhaust fans
You folks are mistaken if you think that you only have to satisfy the NEC. Every state and city adopts a building code, which usually has the NEC as a part of the code. Those areas where the NEC is silent is covered by another code. In this case, the Residential Code covers it in the mechanical section. As Ryan noted, the IRC is silent on this issue, which means if the manufacturer's instructions allow plastic, then plastic is OK. The IRC, by the way, requires a minimum 50 cfm unit for intermittent use and 20 cfm unit for continuous use.
You folks are mistaken if you think that you only have to satisfy the NEC. Every state and city adopts a building code, which usually has the NEC as a part of the code. Those areas where the NEC is silent is covered by another code. In this case, the Residential Code covers it in the mechanical section. As Ryan noted, the IRC is silent on this issue, which means if the manufacturer's instructions allow plastic, then plastic is OK. The IRC, by the way, requires a minimum 50 cfm unit for intermittent use and 20 cfm unit for continuous use.
luke warmwater
Senior Member
Re: Bath exhaust fans
We do only have to satisfy the requirements of NEC as all of our proposals say so.
We work in so many different places that it is impossible for us as an electrical contractor to know every township's special requirements on other than NEC issues. We spell it out in our proposal and it is up to the G.C. to inform us of any such issues.
I do know that 'round here, the plastic flex won't pass. It has to be metal flex and if the exhaust duct goes verticle between floors, that section has to be solid metal duct.
We do only have to satisfy the requirements of NEC as all of our proposals say so.
We work in so many different places that it is impossible for us as an electrical contractor to know every township's special requirements on other than NEC issues. We spell it out in our proposal and it is up to the G.C. to inform us of any such issues.
I do know that 'round here, the plastic flex won't pass. It has to be metal flex and if the exhaust duct goes verticle between floors, that section has to be solid metal duct.
Re: Bath exhaust fans
luke warmwater,
please understand I'm trying to pick a fight here but there are some reasons that I might fail you on an electrical inspection even though the work might be completely NEC compliant, and regardless of what your proposals say. Examples that come to mind are insufficient emergency lighting or exit signage, or smoke detectors not provided in locations that require them. These are covered in the building code. And, to get back to the topic of this thread, improper bathroom exhaust duct material. I'm not aware of a requirement that they be metal, but the IMC in section 603.5 requires flexible ducts to be tested in accordance with UL 181 and to be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. In my area, it's not always the electrican who installs these ducts, so I would fail whoever installed them
luke warmwater,
please understand I'm trying to pick a fight here
but there are some reasons that I might fail you on an electrical inspection even though the work might be completely NEC compliant, and regardless of what your proposals say. Examples that come to mind are insufficient emergency lighting or exit signage, or smoke detectors not provided in locations that require them. These are covered in the building code. And, to get back to the topic of this thread, improper bathroom exhaust duct material. I'm not aware of a requirement that they be metal, but the IMC in section 603.5 requires flexible ducts to be tested in accordance with UL 181 and to be installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. In my area, it's not always the electrican who installs these ducts, so I would fail whoever installed them luke warmwater
Senior Member
Re: Bath exhaust fans
e,
I like fights 'cause I could use a good whoopin'!!
I'm not saying that we don't do such things, but they are taken care of as Change Orders.
The things that you mention are not NEC items, so you could Not fail my ELECTRICAL inspection and win (unless there was an NEC or local ammended Code violation), rather, you would be failing the building inspection.
e,
I like fights 'cause I could use a good whoopin'!!
I'm not saying that we don't do such things, but they are taken care of as Change Orders.
The things that you mention are not NEC items, so you could Not fail my ELECTRICAL inspection and win (unless there was an NEC or local ammended Code violation), rather, you would be failing the building inspection.
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Re: Bath exhaust fans
They must do things different in Utah.
They must do things different in Utah.
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