Bath vanity light

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george t. everett said:
If a wall mounted fixture above a sink is less then 3' from the tub/shower,
does it have to be listed for damp locations?
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No more than it would anywhere else in tnhe bathroom.
 
Yes,

The last sentence of 410.4(D) states:

Luminaires (lighting fixtures) located in this zone (3 ft horizontal and 8 feet verticle from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold) shall be listed for damp locations, or listed for wet locations where subject to shower spray.

Chris
 
ryan_618 said:
Chris is right....however, this was an unintentional inclusion in the 2005 that will be removed in the 2008.
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So does that mean that in the 2008 you wouldn't need a damp location fixture if it's less than 3' from the tub?
 
Thats correct...the damp/wet location issue will only apply if the light is in the physical footprint of the tub/shower.

The three foot prohibition for suspended luminaires, track, fans, etc. will remain, however.
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Ryan
Could you provide the ROP?ROC ...please

Does this mean that I can mount any light over the sink if the sink is located in the 3ft X8ft Zone, next to the tub enclosure?
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Any light that's not on the prohibition list.
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Ryan
Could you provide the ROP?ROC ...please
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Here is the ROP, with the bolded parts being the changes:
18-51 Log #1906 NEC-P18 Final Action: Accept
(410.4(D))
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Submitter: James W. Carpenter, International Association of Electrical
Inspectors
Recommendation: In the last sentence of 410.4(D), delete the phrase “in this zone” and replace it with the phrase “within the actual footprint of the bathtub rim or shower threshold” to read as follows:
“(D) Bathtub and Shower Areas. No parts of cord-connected luminaires (fixtures), chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended-luminaires (fixtures), lighting
track, pendants, or ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall be located within a space measured 900 mm (3 ft) horizontally and 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the space directly over the tub or shower stall.
Luminaires (lighting fixtures) located in this space within the actual outside dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from
the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold shall.
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There was nothing in the ROC for this, so it remains accepted.
Does this mean that I can mount any light over the sink if the sink is located in the 3ft X8ft Zone, next to the tub enclosure?
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No, it is still prohibited to install suspended luminaires, and track, fans, etc.

Here is the ROP draft text:
(D) Bathtub and Shower Areas. No parts of cordconnected luminaires, chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended luminaires,
lighting track, pendants, or ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall be located within a zone measured
900 mm (3 ft) horizontally and 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is
all encompassing and includes the space directly over the tub or shower stall. Luminaires located within the actual outside
dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold
shall be marked for damp locations, or marked for wet locations where subject to shower spray. [
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