Bathroom Receptacles

[iwire]

Re: Bathroom Receptacles

Originally posted by cram:
The A.H.J. is the N.E.C. not an inspector of wires or any other city or state official.

The AHJ is not the NEC.

From NEC Article 100

Authority Having Jurisdiction. The organization, office, or individual responsible for approving equipment, materials, an installation, or a procedure.

I have tried to track down our AHJ for Mass. and I have had not had any firm answers.

Our amendments in Mass use the term "authority enforcing this Code"

I have not been able to find out if our AHJ is the Board of Fire Prevention Regulations.

I have also been told that our AHJ is the Attorney general as that office is responsible for enforcement of all laws in Mass.

Bob

[ September 18, 2004, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: iwire ]

 

[jim sutton]

Re: Bathroom Receptacles

Quote: "a Relay?? whats that supposed to mean??"

Installing a relay at each bathroom outlet would allow you to keep the bathroom outlets on the bathroom circuit(s). The other switched outlets could then be on a seperate circuit. This circuit can then be used for the control of the relays.

 

[jimwalker]

Re: Bathroom Receptacles

The contactor idea is the only way i see as a way out.Or if you like use a single throw 2 pole switch.Nothing says that bathroom receptacle can't be switched from a remote location.
In todays world if anything goes wrong they will sue you, so stay within nec.Might cost a few extra dollars but unless you goofed it was in the price.

 

[cram]

Re: Bathroom Receptacles

Iwire(Bob),It is not at all clear to me who gives the permission required to the A.H.J. to "waive" requirements of the N.E.C. "By special permission, the authority having jurisdiction may waive specific requirements in this Code or permit alternative methods where it is assured that equivalent objectives can be achieved by establishing and maintaining effective safety". Who grants this permission to the A.H.J. if it is not the A.H.J. itself? It sounds as if the A.H.J. needs permission? Not only that but it is very unclear what code articles may or may not allow for "special permission" "The authority having jurisdiction for enforcement of the Code has the responsibility for making interpretations of the rules, for deciding on the approval of equipment and materials, and for granting the special permission contemplated in a number of the rules"."The special permission contemplated in a number of the rules"... this is very grey, are there code articles that point to "the special permission" as a recommended step for us to take while we consider our design.In any event I can not see the A.H.J. granting "special permission" for this one, it is a mandatory rule "Shall have no other outlets" let alone a receptacle. and the time and money spent would be a waste of energy. Thanks to the Mass guys for trying to find out who or what the A.H.J. is.I can only imagine the "special permission" is reserved for more "special" concerns.

 

[gndrod]

Re: Bathroom Receptacles

A possible solution to a common switch controling seasonal lights throughout the house, you may consider using X-10 modules at each desired location. The PLC(powerline carrier) transmitter and receiver combination works from the master control to all circuits but I am not sure if the multiplexing works thru AFCI and GFCI circuits. Either way, all bathroom receptacles require GFCI protection.

rbj HOUSE WIRING & THE PROCESS.