best method to run wire for kitchen island gfi ?

NYC_NY

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what wiring method would be best? beside RMC . planning to channel the slab from the wall to the island, about 7 feet? NYC
 

LarryFine

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I would put in PVC conduit from either a wall receptacle or an accessible point like under the sink.

If you use a wiring method or combination continuous from box to box, you can use individual wires.
 

Crash117

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Sometimes it might be difficult to run a complete raceway from source to intended target. By using the UF cable, you could just sleeve part of the run and the rest exposed, or in a place out of the way, that would be impossible to run conduit.
The AHJ around here will not accept UF exposed in any type of exposed application. Must be sleeved to enter any location from below grade. It’s just as easy to transition from the end of a conduit to a flex of some kind to complete the run instead of trying to deal with UF.
 

roger

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The AHJ around here will not accept UF exposed in any type of exposed application. Must be sleeved to enter any location from below grade. It’s just as easy to transition from the end of a conduit to a flex of some kind to complete the run instead of trying to deal with UF.
Has the AHJ ever cited a code or is it just his/her wish?
 

Crash117

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Yet it is allowed by the NEC. What is their reasoning and have they made the amendment accessible?
Regardless, IMO inside of a cabinet is not exactly exposed
I don’t know the reason. Maybe they look at it the same as NM. Also the fact that I would never do it that way by using UF means it doesn’t really come into play on any installs I do.
 

roger

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NM is allowed to be exposed. Have you actually seen the amendment or are they just telling you there is one.
 

LarryFine

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We often see NM sleeved in FMC in island cabinets; what's the problem with doing the same with UF?
 

Crash117

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We often see NM sleeved in FMC in island cabinets; what's the problem with doing the same with UF?
Nothing wrong with that just harder to deal with UF and stripping it out in tight spaces. I would rather have a complete conduit of one kind or another from end to end. Yes I have seen the amendment.
 

roger

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I have seen it on a tablet that the inspector has that he uses to complete inspections on site. He pulled up a section of local requirements and it spelled it out to the word.
Unless it is somewhere in an official document we can see, it is no more than just something he could have put on his tablet and holds little weight.

UF is tougher than NM so it makes little sense that it would have more restrictions.
 

Crash117

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Unless it is somewhere in an official document we can see, it is no more than just something he could have put on his tablet and holds little weight.

UF is tougher than NM so it makes little sense that it would have more restrictions.
I’m not trying to use or ever planning to use UF. Just commenting on others feed and how it relates to rules in my area.
 

Dahlen69

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I install 4x4 steel box under sink for dishwasher and disposal and run wire from load side of gfi of countertop then to under sink put in four square box then run too outlet on island
 
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