BEWARE of these new Chinese made HALO 6" new construction cans.

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Well this really takes the cake. I guess you just can't touch anything made out of sheet metal anymore and NOT CUT your hands wide open!

I pushed up on this can to mount it yesterday, since it was replacing an older can in a soffit, the 12g wires were still stapled to the trusses and guess what, well you all know what happens next: Just pushing up on the can with my bare hand from underneath it, the round edge of the can sliced the palm of my hand open, and about a half a second later sliced the knuckle of my thumb also, bad enough for both of them to spring a fairly good leak!

I have written in before to UL about sharp edges on the fronts of boxes, and the first time they temporarily pulled the UL listing on a US steel box because i think, it was an extension box and liable to have wires pushed onto the edge, the other time was a metal mud ring or standard 4x4 box and they basically told me to go pound sand.

So, much like the warning labels to wear gloves you are starting to see on drop in fixtures and other fluorescent lights, feel free to either boycott Halo, which i'm going to try to do, write to them, which i am also going to do, as well as UL, complaining about this HAZARD, or wear gloves, if you have no choice other than to install these POS. :thumbsdown:
 
I think it is a weight and profits thing, like the car fenders of the sixties to the seventies to now... a sixties pickup could take out a brick wall but the pickups today you lean on the fender too hard you need a new fender...
of course, the thinner the metal, the easier it will cut you, but the lighter it is so the more fit in a shipping container...
 
I was putting in a sink drain yesterday and while wiping the excess plumbers putty from around the lip I sliced my thumb and index finger. I can't even say it was Chinese made, but something i didn't expect
 
i dont necessarily blame china as the U.S. companies are in charge of "Quality" control, or rather, it's demise. This is just a total joke. the US Steel boxes i referred to are made in the US. it is cheaping out. and it's a load of crap that the UL will NOT do anything at all to protect our hands, but only if they see some kind of a shock or fire hazard. I call BS on that whole concept. I don't know how long these lights have been made by Chin but it's time Halo stepped it up. Maybe somebody from there will read this and know that i would like to stuff one of these lights somewhere up their anatomy. :rant:
 
Until now I used to think that Lightolier recessed cans were the worst. By the time I finished a rough-in my hands were cut to ribbons on the sharp edges of their flat nail-on plates. When you have companies like Juno and Halo who have improved on their designs over the years there are always seems to be a slew of companies looking to get their foot in the door with sub-quality products. Like you, I've paid the price by using poorly made products imported from other countries. Long story made short - the products aren't worth what you think you're saving.

I recently used cans made by a company named Elite. I spent hours making adjustments to the bracket that held the socket so that the bulb would point straight down. Spent a lot of time doing that - not worth the savings up front.
 
I like the "Commercial Electric" cans. I think they are Home Depot's house brand. They are probably made in China also, but I've never had a problem with them. But never eat any food made in China. They have no regard for human life and will poison you to make an extra penny a ton.
 
Coppersmith said:
I like the "Commercial Electric" cans. I think they are Home Depot's house brand. They are probably made in China also, but I've never had a problem with them. But never eat any food made in China. They have no regard for human life and will poison you to make an extra penny a ton.
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You ain't kidding, brother. See here. Happened a while ago, but just the tip, I'm sure.
 
gadfly56 said:
You ain't kidding, brother. See here. Happened a while ago, but just the tip, I'm sure.
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This says it all:

Chinese regulators said Thursday that their investigation of toothpaste manufacturers there had found they had done nothing wrong.
The F.D.A. said diethylene glycol in any amount was not suitable for use in toothpaste.

also see Top 10 Chinese Food Scandals:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8476080/Top-10-Chinese-Food-Scandals.html

also tainted dog food

http://time.com/107922/china-pet-food-contamination-recall-video/
 
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Until now I used to think that Lightolier recessed cans were the worst. By the time I finished a rough-in my hands were cut to ribbons on the sharp edges of their flat nail-on plates. When you have companies like Juno and Halo who have improved on their designs over the years there are always seems to be a slew of companies looking to get their foot in the door with sub-quality products. Like you, I've paid the price by using poorly made products imported from other countries. Long story made short - the products aren't worth what you think you're saving.

I recently used cans made by a company named Elite. I spent hours making adjustments to the bracket that held the socket so that the bulb would point straight down. Spent a lot of time doing that - not worth the savings up front.
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it's been over 20 years since i even considered handling ANY luminaries without gloves on.

i assume they have a TWR at the end of the assembly line with a 4" grinder, sharpening any
edges missed by the dull punch dies that leave .030" drug edges on all the punched outlines.
 
tkb said:
Do you think the Chinese use the same quality crap they push to the USA?
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I think they do and since I suspect they don't have access to better quality stuff from other places they don't complain because they don't know the difference.
 
Coppersmith said:
I think they do and since I suspect they don't have access to better quality stuff from other places they don't complain because they don't know the difference.
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Who says QC doesn't pull better quality items for domestic use and export everything else?:D
 
just got a letter back from Eaton. he said that his company recommends that installers of their lights wear gloves. i replied to him that he should go **** ***self.
 
The people of chicom don't have a choice let alone more than bare lamps.
Anyone remember G.E. switchgear from the 70-80s, like installing razor blades?
 
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