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Hi Guy's it's me the elevator man trying to be an electrical contractor. OK here we go i have blue prints in front of me for a 1300 square foot extension. This is the biggest thing i have ever done. I have a couple of questions maybe you guys can help me with. The first is how long do you think this job would take. It has about 16 recessed lighting fixtures, 24 wall recepticals, 2 outdoor fixtures and 2 outdoor GFCI's. Also 2 fans , 6 3way switches, 6 single switches. And oddley enough i don't see any circuits for the hot water heater ,or the a/c or heat. Lastley on the prints it shows a ground ring in the foundation which i have never done before, maybe you can explain to me what i have to do. I appreciate any help on this. I am sure some of you are looking at me like why would i even bother but i am just trying to learn the right way to do things . And i have to start someware. Thanks in advance MIKE:D
 
Trovmar said:
OK here we go i have blue prints in front of me for a 1300 square foot extension. This is the biggest thing i have ever done. I have a couple of questions maybe you guys can help me with. The first is how long do you think this job would take. It has about 16 recessed lighting fixtures, 24 wall recepticals, 2 outdoor fixtures and 2 outdoor GFCI's. Also 2 fans , 6 3way switches, 6 single switches. And oddley enough i don't see any circuits for the hot water heater ,or the a/c or heat.
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Here is how I like to play this game :)

YOU tell us how long/much and THEN we tell you how long/much.

This way, I know you are at least making an effort.

Trovmar said:
Lastley on the prints it shows a ground ring in the foundation which i have never done before, maybe you can explain to me what i have to do.
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First thing I would do is call whomever stamped the print for the ring and question THEM.
A CCE would be the easiest, most cost efficient, code compliant option for you ~ providing of course that this extension has footings.
 
Trovmar said:
Hi Guy's it's me the elevator man trying to be an electrical contractor. OK here we go i have blue prints in front of me for a 1300 square foot extension. This is the biggest thing i have ever done. I have a couple of questions maybe you guys can help me with. The first is how long do you think this job would take. It has about 16 recessed lighting fixtures, 24 wall recepticals, 2 outdoor fixtures and 2 outdoor GFCI's. Also 2 fans , 6 3way switches, 6 single switches. And oddley enough i don't see any circuits for the hot water heater ,or the a/c or heat. Lastley on the prints it shows a ground ring in the foundation which i have never done before, maybe you can explain to me what i have to do. I appreciate any help on this. I am sure some of you are looking at me like why would i even bother but i am just trying to learn the right way to do things . And i have to start someware. Thanks in advance MIKE:D
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If this is an addition why would you even need to install a cee ( concrete encased electrode)? If you are working by your self and this is a first for you you may want to figure around 24 man hours. If there are no circ. on the prints for hwh, hvac dont let the GC or HO talk you into adding this for free. You bid what was on the plans given you. Do this on a change order that is signed before you do any extra work.
 
Trovmar said:
Hi Guy's it's me the elevator man trying to be an electrical contractor. OK here we go i have blue prints in front of me for a 1300 square foot extension. This is the biggest thing i have ever done. I have a couple of questions maybe you guys can help me with. The first is how long do you think this job would take. It has about 16 recessed lighting fixtures, 24 wall recepticals, 2 outdoor fixtures and 2 outdoor GFCI's. Also 2 fans , 6 3way switches, 6 single switches. And oddley enough i don't see any circuits for the hot water heater ,or the a/c or heat. Lastley on the prints it shows a ground ring in the foundation which i have never done before, maybe you can explain to me what i have to do. I appreciate any help on this. I am sure some of you are looking at me like why would i even bother but i am just trying to learn the right way to do things . And i have to start someware. Thanks in advance MIKE:D
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Residential addition from blue prints: First I never bid a residential addition just from the prints, I visit the job site to see what really needs to be done. GCs will send you a set of prints showing what they are going to add to the building but not how much damage they are going to do to existing wiring during construction. Every doorway they cut from new to old has lots of potential wiring in the walls. Have you seen the service to the building ? Is it going to be big enough? Are there extra spaces or will a sub panel be necessary? It's much easier to tell how long things are going to take when you look at the actual job.
 
bradleyelectric said:
Why put in a footer ground (CEE) if the service is already established?
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Will the existing service be capable of carrying the load?
T220.12 tells us we need 3va per sq.ft...at 1300 sq. ft, just how many amps are required there (assuming only general lighting loads)?

BTW, just what is the existing service?
 
The CEE or UFER ground can be as simple as attaching a 1/2" piece of rebar to the rebar in the slab with ordinary tie-wire and turning it up out of the slab.

Treat the turned up piece as your ground rod. The connector must be accessable.

Maybe it was added to the spec because the original ground rod(s) measure >25 ohms and have cause problems.
 
stickboy1375 said:
What kind of problems? Like the house still burnt down after a lightning strike? :grin:
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Yea, or the phone rings all the time during a storm, or your computer needs a motherboard twice a year etc.
 
Thanks for the info , sorry it was such a bad post. I was in a rush and i guess i didn't explain myself well enough.
 
Not a bad post. Just would like more info. What is the size of existing service? Why would you need a CEE for a addition? Have you looked at the job site?
 
If you are working alone, it will take a couple of days to rough in.....or, like the olden days for me, one really long one. It will also take a full day to trim out.


Why put in a footer ground (CEE) if the service is already established?
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Maybe the service has to be relocated due to the addition??
 
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