bonding of pool water

[kram4yoo]

Can someone please tell me how to bond the pool water. In the 2008 code. Article 680.26c requires you to bond the pool water. I understand why they want you to do it. I don't understand how to do it. I have talked to many people and been on other forums. I have gotten answers from code review instructors that say it is going to be the manufactures responsibility to supply a grounding point. I was told if I do anything to the pool I would void the warantee. some have suggested installing a pvc T fitting in the hose laeding to the pump.

My situation: I bought a new pool. 52" above ground. Being a journeyman I plan to do the electrical myself.

Does anybody know how it should be done?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

If you have a pool ladder or anything metal that is in contact with the water then all you need to do is to bond that. In an inground pool with a light then there is no need to go any further than bond the light.

 

[kram4yoo]

Sorry I forgot to mention that the ladder is plastic and there are no lights.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Is there a metal frame on the pool?

 

[kram4yoo]

Yes, with a vinyl liner

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Is this not considered a storable pool??? It would not have to meet the requirements of 680 Part II

 

[kram4yoo]

anything deeper than 42 " is considered permenant. my pool is 52" deep

 

[Dennis Alwon]

anything deeper than 42 " is considered permenant. my pool is 52" deep

Duh, I missed that 52" thingy in your OP. Sorry.

According to 680.26C the bonding of 680.26(B), any of those parts would suffice. Thus bond the pool motor and you satisfy the water bond.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would put a metal pipe out of the pump and bond the pump to the pipe.

 

[brian john]

Durn Dennis I read that somewhere........Seems almost a silly addition to the NEC...Bond water.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Durn Dennis I read that somewhere........Seems almost a silly addition to the NEC...Bond water.

I agree--Seems inconsequential for the most part.

I need addition to my eyesight some glasses-- I read your post as Dum Dennis :grin::grin::grin:

 

[zdog]

If you have a pool ladder or anything metal that is in contact with the water then all you need to do is to bond that. In an inground pool with a light then there is no need to go any further than bond the light.

are you sure about only bonding the light on a inground pool? what about the ladder,the rebar,the pump,heater or any other metal parts with in 5 ft of the pool?theres a good digram here http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=96001&highlight=pool+bonding see post #5

 

[brian john]

z

Dennis was saying if you have ONE of these, not ignore these...

 

[zdog]

i did not say that he said to ignore anything. i was just puzzled by his comment

In an inground pool with a light then there is no need to go any further than bond the light.

if i was the op or someone that was asking how to bond a pool and not know better i would think i only had to bond the light.sorry if i didnt make it clear or that you dont see it that way.

 

[hey_poolboy]

I have not run this past our local inspector, but have heard some others are letting this fulfill the bonding requirements.

The main idea behind the bonding of the water is that in an insulated pool, say a fiberglass shell, if there are none of the previously mentioned metallic items present then the water can be at a different potential than the deck or grab rails, etc.

Our inspector is going to allow plumbing devices similar to the one in the link above, so long as it is in constant contact with the water. This means placing it at or below pool water level.

 

[zdog]

after watching instance replay

after watching instance replay

on futher review there is a new part in the 2008 code.680.26(c) that states the pool water has to be bonded.if the op had a light in the pool then bonded it.this would meet that requirement. i think:grin:

 

[K8MHZ]

I think it's time to go to Home Depot and ask Larry the Electrical Guy for a water bonding lug.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

on futher review there is a new part in the 2008 code.680.26(c) that states the pool water has to be bonded.if the op had a light in the pool then bonded it.this would meet that requirement. i think:grin:

That was my point in the above link. I did not mean to infer that the ladder did not have to be bonded just that bonding any of those item would satisfy the 680.26(C)

 

[brantmacga]

I think it's time to go to Home Depot and ask Larry the Electrical Guy for a water bonding lug.

$20 says he goes looking for it, then when he can't find it says "i think i might be sold out of those."

 

[zdog]

That was my point in the above link. I did not mean to infer that the ladder did not have to be bonded just that bonding any of those item would satisfy the 680.26(C)

i missed where the op said about 680.26(c) and the bonding of the water.after rereading it then reading the code i saw where what you said was correct.i apologize for that.