Bonding Spa Water

[MasterTheNEC]

As has been speculated in other threads, if the spa is on, for example, a concrete patio that extends from the house walls, it would not be a separate structure. But if it in the open, standing alone, it might be a separate structure needing its own ground electrode.

hmm...ok I was not going to comment on this but heck....why not.

So every deck that is built that is "free-standing or floating", no physical connection to the existing structure would in your view have to have it's own GES. So even if I choose to place a "Hot Tub" on that "isolated" free standing deck system, is your contention that a GES is needed?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

The way the code is written that could technically be required. If the wire to the tub is a feeder then one could argue it is a separate structure and thus needs to have a grounding electrode system. However I don't believe that is the intent behind art. 250.32.

This issue comes up alot -- that would be like saying every light pole is a structure and needs a grounding electrode system if it is fed with a feeder. It gets very difficult to get all scenarios in a code article

 

[MasterTheNEC]

The way the code is written that could technically be required. If the wire to the tub is a feeder then one could argue it is a separate structure and thus needs to have a grounding electrode system. However I don't believe that is the intent behind art. 250.32.

This issue comes up alot -- that would be like saying every light pole is a structure and needs a grounding electrode system if it is fed with a feeder. It gets very difficult to get all scenarios in a code article

Yep...

Yes, I am a man of few words.....so just Yep

 

[kwired]

As has been speculated in other threads, if the spa is on, for example, a concrete patio that extends from the house walls, it would not be a separate structure. But if it in the open, standing alone, it might be a separate structure needing its own ground electrode.

hmm...ok I was not going to comment on this but heck....why not.

So every deck that is built that is "free-standing or floating", no physical connection to the existing structure would in your view have to have it's own GES. So even if I choose to place a "Hot Tub" on that "isolated" free standing deck system, is your contention that a GES is needed?

That is not what he said - read the portion I bolded.

 

[MasterTheNEC]

That is not what he said - read the portion I bolded.

My comment stands....:angel:

 

[kwired]

My comment stands....:angel:

So does mine

 

[FionaZuppa]

That is not what he said - read the portion I bolded.

what was bolded?

 

[kwired]

what was bolded?

Hopefully this is more obvious:angel:

As has been speculated in other threads, if the spa is on, for example, a concrete patio that extends from the house walls, it would not be a separate structure. But if it in the open, standing alone, it might be a separate structure needing its own ground electrode.