Bundling in a panel board

[don_resqcapt19]

Nick,

It is possible that someone may energize a circuit while you are working on it.

It shouldn't be if you are following safe work practices.
Don

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

Try to do the same on stranded .

 

[marinesgt0411]

I especially like the order you said you terminate the conductors. I've always done hots, neutral then eq. grounds.

just a thought if the grounds are hooked up last they will be on top so you will need to dig through them to get to the hots which are the ones that are likely to need to be traced or disconnected.

I have never had to trace a grounding wire without first finding the hot or grounded nuetral.

I also suggest that the grounded nuetral wires be numbered to make it easier to trace them not required just a suggestion. if the wires come into the bottom of the panel take them to the top of the ground and nuetral bar if they come into the top of the panel take them to the bottom of the bars if you ever have to rearrange them for whatever reason you have just a couple more inches to work with which most of the time is all you need. makes my work easier and the few extra minutes spent could save hours later also sometimes saves me from having to shut down an entire panel just to work on one or more circuits

extra time spent on rough-in can save time on trim. extra time on trim can save time on punch-list and warrenty work.so a couple of minutes extra spent at rough-in could and does save a one or two hour warrenty call

all I am saying is look at the end product from the start and if you can do something now that will make things eaisier later consider doing it.

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[marcb]

You couldn't see my tongue in my cheek?

It's just something I never do. When I dress a panel, the wires seem to stay in place without help.

Feeder first, EGC's second, neutrals third, hots last. Why tie?

Nice work. I wish you work out here. I would write a lot less correction notices.

 

[LarryFine]

Larry . . . Do you ever use ser cable on a service?

Isn't this where I came in?

 

[JJWalecka]

Two cents

Two cents

LarryFine,

Nice work!
?By the way, I dislike using tape for recoloring entire conductors (except phase marking). I do it when I must, but I prefer ink or paint.?

Never seen anyone use paint. Pretty cool. LOL.
I like to wrap colored tape around all the conductors from raceway to lug. My Forman justly frowns upon this. Not my money to be wasting, I completely agree.
I always tape the whole Grounding conductor green, raceway to lug. Sometimes I wrap the Grounded white raceway to lug. For the most part the Grounded and Ungrounded get three Stripes of appropriate color tape at the point of termination.


NICK D

"This conductor order is important for safety reasons."

Weather it is a box or panel I always hook up the conductors in this order, Grounding, Grounded, ungrounded.

250.148(B) Grounding Continuity.
The arrangement of grounding connections shall be such that the disconnection of the removal of a receptacle, luminaries (fixture), or other device fed from the box does not interfere with or interrupt the grounding continuity.

I know this Article does not specifically imply to panel. I feel it is good practice to install in the order I specified, especially with bare grounding conductors, keeps the in the back.

I have installed stranded conductors in a panel with and with out tie wraps to dress them neatly. It depends on the install. I try to use a little as possible to allow some spacing between conductors for a lower ambient temperature.

Justin J. Walecka