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roger3829 said:
No. Installer was drilling a hole to run coax outside to a new dish. Drilled blindly from inside thru wall then thru SEU.
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This is a common accident with our local cable company, they blow threw so many low paid, under trained cable installers. usually not to bad, just burn the side of the home, open, or level an attached garage, you would think the cable companies, would train their installers better.
Nice Pic's, that one din't get hot eniough, to take the building out.
 
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220/221 said:
According to the NEC, exposed SEU is safe :wink:

IMO. service conductors should be in IMC.
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These guys blow thru Rigid, IMC would be like butter, they just don't know what they are doing, they just press harder on the drill, no craft skills at all.
 
satcom said:
These guys blow thru Rigid, IMC would be like butter, they just don't know what they are doing, they just press harder on the drill, no craft skills at all.
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That's why you will never see then attempt to fish a wall.
 
satcom said:
This is a common accident with our local cable company, they blow threw so many low paid, under trained cable installers. usually not to bad, just burn the side of the home, open, or level an attached garage, you would think the cable companies, would train their installers better.
Nice Pic's, that one din't get hot eniough, to take the building out.
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I am still living in the old Bell/AT&T copper POTS era, and have wondered how these newcomers (read 'cable companies') are qualified by our government to provide essential telecommunication service.

The old Bell System used to have to abide by strict goverment regulations. The Bell Operating companies had rigid employee hiring standards, impecabile continuous technical and safety training and had to adhere to Bell System Practices. I did not especially like 'em, but they did do a great job, for years.

Now-a-daze it seems that anyone who can fog a mirror and smoke a joint, is qualified to install vital communication service.

Best Wishes Everyone
 
We get three or four a year were CATV installer drills thru the romex from the outside we take two old work boxes on either side of the break and the CATV goes in the middle homeowner gets an extra duplex so they are happy I get paid so I am happy cable guy doesn't get fired so they are happy.
 
Rewire said:
We get three or four a year were CATV installer drills thru the romex from the outside we take two old work boxes on either side of the break and the CATV goes in the middle homeowner gets an extra duplex so they are happy I get paid so I am happy cable guy doesn't get fired so they are happy.
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Thet may be fine for a branch circuit, but they don't seem to hiit the branches, they hit for the service drops.

It's usually not that easy to but a box in, as a faxt fix, unless you have a wire strecher.
 
These guys blow thru Rigid, IMC would be like butter,
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Uh....sorry but, no. You may be exxagerating a bit.

They blow thru SEU like butter.

Of course, anything could be drilled thru, including reinforced concrete, but RMC, IMC offers substantial protection.
 
How about this?

How about the responsibility for these accidents being put on the person running the drill?

If the person drilled into a water line would the plumber be blamed for not using black iron?

Drills don't blow up SE, people do.
 
This is a common accident with our local cable company, they blow threw so many low paid, under trained cable installers.
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And dish installers.


http://www.kctv5.com/news/15698864/detail.html

Patsy Long, 34, of Deepwater, died after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun on Saturday. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means.
 
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If the person drilled into a water line would the plumber be blamed for not using black iron?
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If you drill a water line, water comes out. If you drill service conductors, electrons comes out.;)



Drills don't blow up SE, people do.
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My issue is more with the UNFUSED SE than the exposed SE.

Seems dangerous to me.
 
220/221 said:
My issue is more with the UNFUSED SE than the exposed SE.
Seems dangerous to me.
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I don't use SEU cable but it is approved by the code. If we had an overhead service (rarely around here) I would use PVC as the riser. Thta will not be any safer than the SEU with a drill on the other end. It Happens. Installers need to be careful.
 
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Seems dangerous to me.
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Yes, not looking where your drilling and hitting live, fused or unfused conductors can be deadly.

The fact that they are unfused makes little difference at all to the driller, it's 120 volts either way.

If someone was to drill a CSST gas line would the person to blame be the gas fitter or the driller?
 
The responsibility is always on the operator but the idea behind the NEC is safety and fire prevention.

TR receps come to mind ;)



The fact that they are unfused makes little difference at all to the driller, it's 120 volts either way.
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Sure it does. The OCPD wire is far more likely to trip.......right?
 
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