C-10 in Califormia Experiance Question

[BigFishK5]

I found a similar thread but my circumstances are a bit different. I am a Facilities Engineer for a major Aerospace company and have been providing cradle to grave project management on major infrastructure electrical installations ($50k to $5m) for about 5 years (up to 480v) I have a great diversity of projects from Class 1 Div 1 HVAC installs to 5 megawatt UPS to perform peak load shaving (not to mention outlets, data, fire alarms, and on and on). I have always worked with an electrical engineer and C-10's. My duties typically include scope, procure, permit, supervise installation, verify code compliance, pay invoices, arrange inspections, obtain finals, and any other thing related to a project. In addition to this, I have been doing small scale projects (sub $50k) that for about another 8 on industrial applications for systems integration of automated systems.

I am interested in getting my C-10 and would like your take on if this would be considered as experience as a "owner-builder" or as a "supervising employee"?

 

[Sierrasparky]

Do you have any degree's?
Are you a Veteran?
Do you have a CA general journeyman card?
Enrolled in an apprentice program?

I personally don't think the licensed board will give much credit as owner builder these days especially for a C-10. Also being that the board now has some jurisdiction as to the apprentice and Journeyman programs it does not reason that they would allow someone these days to obtain a C-10 without being in the program or proof of program from another state.

Who knows this is CA.

 

[BigFishK5]

Do you have any degree's?
Are you a Veteran?
Do you have a CA general journeyman card?
Enrolled in an apprentice program?

I personally don't think the licensed board will give much credit as owner builder these days especially for a C-10. Also being that the board now has some jurisdiction as to the apprentice and Journeyman programs it does not reason that they would allow someone these days to obtain a C-10 without being in the program or proof of program from another state.

Who knows this is CA.

Bleh CA! lol.

I have an IT degree and tons of credits in project management kind of stuff. I don't have a journeyman card nor am I in an apprentice program. Honestly, it would be a big step back to sign up as an apprentice given that my day job pays pretty well (could I get that card and have my daily duties apply?). I am kinda of on the fence as if its applicable as well, although I know I have a more diverse and in depth experience than most residential contractors out there, especially when it comes to estimating and the rest. It would be nice to get a feel or clear best path on how to get the requirements in place.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Maybe you could document the projects in a way that the CSLB would think your involvement was legitimate on the job working for a electrician.
I have had a friend try to get a B license and was told he did not have enough experience. The problem was not the many years of work he had been involved with ,it was that it was not at journeyman level. So he was told when the application was rejected.

unfortunately CA has the journeyman program now. That kind of makes it difficult to say you are at a journeyman level of experience when you do not have the W-2's to prove it. The board will give you 2 years off work experience for the degree I think.

 

[Fulthrotl]

I am interested in getting my C-10 and would like your take on if this would be considered as experience as a "owner-builder" or as a "supervising employee"?

based on your skill set, you might consider this.
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edit: and if you google a little deeper......

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After working with an RME or RMO for 4 years , you can apply for your own license. It may be less than 4 years if other education or experience is allowed.

 

[RumRunner]

I found a similar thread but my circumstances are a bit different. I am a Facilities Engineer for a major Aerospace company and have been providing cradle to grave project management on major infrastructure electrical installations ($50k to $5m) for about 5 years (up to 480v) I have a great diversity of projects from Class 1 Div 1 HVAC installs to 5 megawatt UPS to perform peak load shaving (not to mention outlets, data, fire alarms, and on and on). I have always worked with an electrical engineer and C-10's. My duties typically include scope, procure, permit, supervise installation, verify code compliance, pay invoices, arrange inspections, obtain finals, and any other thing related to a project. In addition to this, I have been doing small scale projects (sub $50k) that for about another 8 on industrial applications for systems integration of automated systems.

I am interested in getting my C-10 and would like your take on if this would be considered as experience as a "owner-builder" or as a "supervising employee"?

How is it that you're able to secure permit, supervise electrical installs and obtain finals when you are not a certified electrical worker in CA.
Usually, when an inspector finds a non-compliant installation, AHJ write you up (a pink slip) to correct a non-compliant install.
The notice shows the registered person's name who is supposed to be held accountable for the project.
I suggest you consider working in a union shop (IBEW) for a while and some union members can vouch for your experience.
Good education doesn't come easy.
I'm an electrical engineer, a C10 holder for almost forty years and a Microsoft Certified Data Network Admin/Engineer.
Those RMO/RME links remind me of the scam on the web that you can buy a Master's Degree diploma for twenty five bucks.
Don't fall into that trap.