Can I install GFCI receptacle on GFCI/AFCI breaker

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AC\DC said:
Are state has amendments that we don't need to AFCI protection when doing panel changes. SO we can install just standard breakers as what was originally there, so I would not be violating the code if I switched back to standard breaker.
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If you installed a GFCI and/or AFCI and it tripped, you were informed there's an issue. You touched it, it's your liability at that point.
 
480sparky said:
If you installed a GFCI and/or AFCI and it tripped, you were informed there's an issue. You touched it, it's your liability at that point.
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I agree! This is fodder to line lawyers pockets. If you change a panel and put in regular breakers, like were there (or fuses) then you did not see an issue, so there is nothing to warn the customer to do. IF you put in a GFCI or AFCI and notice an issue, then you know there is an issue, that's all a lawyer needs to know, that you, as a professional in your field, saw an issue and did not fix it.....
 
I think you guys are being overly dramatic about this potential liability thing. You guys are so scared about getting sued, I'm surprised you can even leave the house 😂Personally, I would lose zero sleep over it, however I would lose sleep over getting a call from the client that the afci tripped and having to go back.
 
electrofelon said:
I think you guys are being overly dramatic about this potential liability thing. You guys are so scared about getting sued, I'm surprised you can even leave the house 😂Personally, I would lose zero sleep over it, however I would lose sleep over getting a call from the client that the afci tripped and having to go back.
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What's more likely to happen is the HO finds out you didn't perform your job correctly and files a complaint with the licensing authority. Nothing would suck more than losing your career 'cuz you're too lazy to go find a bare ground wire touching a neutral screw in a receptacle box.
 
I reiterate what I said in post 18. Avoid installing AFCI or GFCI circuit breakers on existing circuits. You are just asking for trouble.
 
480sparky said:
What's more likely to happen is the HO finds out you didn't perform your job correctly and files a complaint with the licensing authority. Nothing would suck more than losing your career 'cuz you're too lazy to go find a bare ground wire touching a neutral screw in a receptacle box.
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But I don't see that happening. I think we are talking about the scenario where the AFCI is optional, in which case you say something like," existing circuits number 8 and 17 are not compatible with the newer AFCI circuit breakers. Do you want me to investigate those circuits for issues YES OR NO?". I am not seeing where the "complaint" comes into play.
 
480sparky said:
Nothing would suck more than losing your career 'cuz you're too lazy to go find a bare ground wire touching a neutral screw in a receptacle box.
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Hey man go easy:( . I never said I would not find it. I was just saying some homeowners don't want to pay for you to find it. And the way I addressed it was not correct. Next time I will Leave de-energized with indication that home owner did not want to fix it.
 
I can find code violations on practically any electrical job. How many electricians have a torquing screwdriver to tighten receptacle screws? You can only inform a customer, not force them to pay for required repairs.
 
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