can you use recepticle as splice point

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Originally posted by jimwalker:
Peter,what's up with the attitude ? No x mas bonus ?
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No, I just don't buy your argument about using the terminal screws for a feed through. You haven't presented any good evidence why they're bad. I have never seen a properly installed receptacle using terminal screws fail. Yes, the backstabs are prone to failure but not the terminal screws. That's all I'm saying.
 
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Screws tend to get loose.Yes 99% will work fine.But that 1% will cost someone a service call.The choice is yours.Takes a minute more to pigtail.If the job is a tight bid then you might have no choice.I work for a quality company.We take the time to do it right.
 
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my last job was all track houses and it was the "rush rush stab stab" policy.

This job (which i just quit to move) was all custom houses and it was the employers wishes to pigtail and wrap around screws.

if it were my own business i honestly cant say which i would do. i have had some bad experiences stabbing in receps that feed through. granted they were all the dated type that accepted #12 stabbed in. that in itself actually started a personaly policy of tapping receps as the first thing i do on "partially dead circuit" service calls.

saying that i would probably pigtail. untill then i am at the service of my employer and will do as they ask so long as it is ethical and remains within the scope of code.
 
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to become a well rounded electrician, one need experience in all aspects of the trade.

i was lucky to work for a company that could provied that.

most just sign off your card based on number of years, regardless of what actual types of work you were on.

if you are stuck in a rut, i advise you try something new. it may hurt the wallet for now, but it will help you in the long run.
 
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Originally posted by jbwhite:
to become a well rounded electrician, one need experience in all aspects of the trade.

i was lucky to work for a company that could provied that.

most just sign off your card based on number of years, regardless of what actual types of work you were on.

if you are stuck in a rut, i advise you try something new. it may hurt the wallet for now, but it will help you in the long run.
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to whom are you refering?
 
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Originally posted by PlnOldRick:
Originally posted by jbwhite:
to become a well rounded electrician, one need experience in all aspects of the trade.

i was lucky to work for a company that could provied that.

most just sign off your card based on number of years, regardless of what actual types of work you were on.

if you are stuck in a rut, i advise you try something new. it may hurt the wallet for now, but it will help you in the long run.
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to whom are you refering?
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noone particular. why? did you think it was you?
 
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Jim pete d is just peeved he didn`t get the fruit cake he wanted merry x mas :D .After all we all can`t be the best there is :roll:
 
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Rick don`t sweat it man. I have done all emt homes ,NM homes,even smurf homes.Biggest to date 32,5000 ft 1 bad joint :D :D :D
 
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Originally posted by allenwayne:
.After all we all can`t be the best there is :roll:
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Wow, how'd you figure that one out? That's exactly what I mean!
:roll: I'm the best and everyone else is a hack! :roll:

Allen, if you actually read this thread you would see I was frustrated with JIm making a blanket statement and providing no good evidence to support it. The problems he is talking are created by poor installations, not by using a particular method.
 
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A typo 32,500 sq ft. and it show cased at the Tampa home builders show.The original boss sr.retired was there came to me and handed me a C note saying great job :D .
But I can still bend a saddle set and might have to trim a little and that`s from 12 down.Right now I am trac super doing production , but that is the difference commercial perfection is in the bid trac well let`s see if it passes :D
7-able to teach the green guys
8-able to build a 2000 a service
9able to build a 60 a service
10-able to say I SCREWED UP BUT i AM STILL THE BEST :D
nO OFFENSE PETE JUST A BAD END TO A BAD YEAR ;)
 
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We do not disagree with STAK-ONS. We use them on contactors, PLC applications, etc. But when we have 2000+ receptacles to terminate, the strand pigtails from normally solid MC to device (leaving that little tab on to prevent fraying works) on hook terminations. It is not "cheesy" or anything else that "you" may call it.The price of crimp connectors are out of control too! Also, We do a lot of service work "lose one receptacle, all else downstream do not" Pigtailing will decrease the "series" circuit. Don't you think ? On a final note this forum is more about education than about ME,ME,I,I, etc. Note: In this reply there is no "I or Me" in our TEAM ! Thank You all.
 
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can't resist putting my 2 cents worth in even though its just another opinion, albeit based on a number of years.
(a) no problem with "feed thru". have seen a few tabs tail in short circuit sitaution, but very few.
(b) pressure plate, to me is best, but most don';t want the associated price.
(c) stranded, without sta-kons, to me is , pardon THAT word, is "cheesy".
 
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allenwayne. What does that mean ? Did We miss something ? Nothing in Regards (educational) to this TOPIC! Not trying to be "facetious" HELP US!
 
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Originally posted by jbwhite:
Originally posted by PlnOldRick:
Originally posted by jbwhite:
to become a well rounded electrician, one need experience in all aspects of the trade.

i was lucky to work for a company that could provied that.

most just sign off your card based on number of years, regardless of what actual types of work you were on.

if you are stuck in a rut, i advise you try something new. it may hurt the wallet for now, but it will help you in the long run.
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to whom are you refering?
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noone particular. why? did you think it was you?
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faintly because you did not quote and i was the previus post, but thats why i asked instead of accused :)

also Allen, 32,000 and only 6.5? when was that? i just finished a 9,600 and it was on merket for 4.8, but the market in sarasota is a robbery.

oh add another thing to your what is an electrician list

7-able to teach the green guys
(a)and not kill them when they do dumb things
 
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I want to know how many times that house has changed hands for it to bring 6.5.

Roger
 
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I just think wrapping stranded around a screw is garbage work.Hense Idiotic ;)
 
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