can you use recepticle as splice point

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an intersting side note: we have a contractor in this area that runs a single unbroken run of 14/2 for his device circuits (he may use this same method on 12/2/, unsure). At the device box he folds the romex, removes jacket and enough insulation to terminate. He does not cut the wire, period (neut, gr, phase-nada).
Swears its quicker, and in a 100 ft run with 15 devices he has exactly 0 splices, feed thrus, etc.

appartently its an acquired practice, i've tried it and found it to be slower for me, but he sure makes an excellent argument for his method.
 
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an intersting side note: we have a contractor in this area that runs a single unbroken run of 14/2 for his device circuits (he may use this same method on 12/2/, unsure)
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I do that same thing on wire pulls through conduit. I loop the wire through outlets and do not have any splices or double terminations at the receptacles.
 
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Michael, welcome to the forum. :)
My truck's speedometer says 120 mph. I can - if I need to - but I don't do it, 'cause it's not safe. I gotta sleep at night and I don't want to risk MY license.

Hey, the NEC says you can use #14 to wire a house. But, it's been a local code here for ages that the minimum be a #12. Just because it's listed for it, it don't make it right.
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Show me the body count. :)
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Augie, just be sure the fellow leaves at least 6" of conductor before the termination. ;)

Last night, I spent a long time dealing with that method terminated at around 2.5" from the end of the conduit. Guess the dude never figured I'd be coming along behind, changing outlets. :mad:
 
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If you have one person that dies from a preventable electrical hazard that is not prohibited by code, then you have ample case to propose a change to the code.

If you have documented evidence that a tab started a fire, then you have something.
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Careful where you go with this George. You might trip the wire and get me started about romex bundling again :D :D
 
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okay, devil's advocate time. Someone has probably keeled over and died reading this forum. odds on with the amount of age here. it could be argued that the cause was a contentiuos topic or one that was so funny that the geezer choked on his dinner, no one to heimlich the poor old bugger. And voila, the daughter finds the body with the computer still showing some pointed insult, and files suit.

I think that the body count stuff is important, and proving the actual cause, not just the concurrence, is necessary for any assertion of consequence.

Over the years I did all the types of connections at outlets. When they stopped the 20 amp back-stabs, I knew electricians that bought up huge amounts of them to use past the stop date. Over the years I became more and more conscientious about how I connected all my wiring. I used to be arrogant, hanging all my lights from the first wire nut, but i found myself using less care with subsequent connections. I finally just got in the habit of pulling very hard on all my wire nuts.

Why i brought that up is that I stopped using the tabs as feed through on any but bedroom circuits (or similar limited type usage outlets) when using stranded. The tab looks to me as if it has as much or more conductive metal than the connection at the breaker. Most of that was that my knees were gone and outlets were the most painful, so i was always gritting my teeth. good chance of less than perfect stranded connections under stress.

I think that the tabs can handle the current, I think that reasonable care with stranded and tabs can handle the current. I learned to make accordion type solid pigtails a long time ago.

boy am i rambling

paul
 
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Originally posted by augie47:
an intersting side note: we have a contractor in this area that runs a single unbroken run of 14/2 for his device circuits (he may use this same method on 12/2/, unsure). At the device box he folds the romex, removes jacket and enough insulation to terminate. He does not cut the wire, period (neut, gr, phase-nada).
Swears its quicker, and in a 100 ft run with 15 devices he has exactly 0 splices, feed thrus, etc.

appartently its an acquired practice, i've tried it and found it to be slower for me, but he sure makes an excellent argument for his method.
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That has to be a pain in the butt to do on a block wall.On a stud wall I can see it slice ,strip fold done deal but try that on block walls .NO WAY :D
 
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