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boyle78

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new hampshire
Ok here's the deal. I have been looking online all day for a new cordless combo kit...the big stores, the online dealers, ebay...you get the point. I really can't decide what brand to get without a little feedback from some people that may have used them. I use the 18v L.I. Milwaukee kit at work and it's junk...so that brand is out. I guess it's between Bosch, Makita, DeWalt and (maybe even Ryobi.) What do you guys have / prefer for the 18v lithium cordless kits?
 

electricalperson

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massachusetts
Ok here's the deal. I have been looking online all day for a new cordless combo kit...the big stores, the online dealers, ebay...you get the point. I really can't decide what brand to get without a little feedback from some people that may have used them. I use the 18v L.I. Milwaukee kit at work and it's junk...so that brand is out. I guess it's between Bosch, Makita, DeWalt and (maybe even Ryobi.) What do you guys have / prefer for the 18v lithium cordless kits?

skip the 18 volt line. i got the 36volt combo kit from dewalt and love it. thats all the tools you need. "power of corded without the cord"
 

ibew441dc

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Ok here's the deal. I have been looking online all day for a new cordless combo kit...the big stores, the online dealers, ebay...you get the point. I really can't decide what brand to get without a little feedback from some people that may have used them. I use the 18v L.I. Milwaukee kit at work and it's junk...so that brand is out. I guess it's between Bosch, Makita, DeWalt and (maybe even Ryobi.) What do you guys have / prefer for the 18v lithium cordless kits?

Bosch,Makita,DeWalt, (IMO even Millwakee).......but I wouldn't even consider Ryobi.

Rigid brand at H.D. is pretty good......My personal favorite( a little more expensive than the rest though) is Porter Cable.:smile:
 

LLSolutions

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Long Island, NY
I've had good luck with dewalt. I don't like milwaukee because they cant stand on the battery. I've used the rigid and like them too, never owned a hilti cordless but they do make a great corded product so they may be worth a look. Any of the big names made in America?
 

480sparky

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Iowegia
No matter what you decide to get, don't get it at the lowest-priced online outfit. Warranty may be an issue and 1). they may be out of business next week and 2). they'll require you to ship it somewhere for 6-8 weeks.
 

Mule

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Oklahoma
The cost of replacement dewalt 18v battery's are making me wonder. When I need a new battery, I buy a new tool of some sort to get the battery. Now Ive got all the tools I need, and its battery time again. I got a whole bucket full of 18v batteries and two or three that are any good.

So I bought the 12v Dewalt small drill and dewalt cordless screwdriver, and I believe I going to a corded hammer drill....the cost and hassle of the 18v battery's in the end makes it questionable to me, unless you just consider the cost of more batterys the price of doing business.

We have a union shop in town that runs around a dozen trucks and they dont use cordless at all.....I consider that a bit silly, but my point is that there are folks whom still drag a cord.....
 

CopperTone

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don't buy dewalt from home cheapo or blowe's. They use plastic parts in their drill that they sell at those stores - go to grainger or a store like that to buy dewalt - they are more expensive for a reason.
 

Fulthrotl

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The cost of replacement dewalt 18v battery's are making me wonder. When I need a new battery, I buy a new tool of some sort to get the battery. Now Ive got all the tools I need, and its battery time again. I got a whole bucket full of 18v batteries and two or three that are any good.

send them here... they rebuild them, and do a better job than the factory
does, usually....

http://www.voltmanbatteries.com
 

active1

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Las Vegas
Makita 18v Ion has been good to me for 3 years.
They have a small LED work light with a short timmer that is handy.
The drill & impact has a glow in the dark ring that will help you find it when it falls in insulation or a dark atic.
They are light weight.

Which ever brand you chose look for an impact screw gun also. They are smaller then a drill and work real well for screws.

Also I would like to warn about Milwaukee sawsalls. They seem to leave more of the working end exposed. I got myself with an 18v one a few times. I seen a few times guys get it with the corded one needing stiches. Not long ago another trade person was swowing off their 36v Milwaukee set. I told him my concern about the plunger exposed. He said "yep, It got me and I had to get some stiches".

I would not go with Robi.

IMO 36v are heavy and bulky.
 

MarkyMarkNC

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Raleigh NC
I've probably dissected a dozen dead drills from the major drill brands - Dewalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Ryobi. They ALL have metal gears for all three stages of reduction. They ALL use name brand electric motors - mostly Johnson. Some brands use the exact same motor as their competitors do - maybe the windings are different. There are only two major manufacturers of Lithium batteries in the world, so chances are these are all the same as well. Quality engineering on a drill is not really rocket science, so I doubt there are major differences there. They all have similar support and warranties.

Bottom line - If the specs on various brands are similar, chances are they are 97% the same between brands. Buy whatever brand is on sale that week, or has the hot poster girls, or whose color matches your tool box. Any difference you perceive in quality between brands is probably illusory.
 

buddhakii

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Littleton, CO
Buy American

Buy American

Whatever you buy, try to get the made in USA. I know most if not all power tools are made overseas, but I've found Rigid does make a lot of their drill bits here.
 
skip the 18 volt line. i got the 36volt combo kit from dewalt and love it. thats all the tools you need. "power of corded without the cord"
I have a Milwaukee 28V line. Not quite as bulky and not quite the same power, but I've had them for 3 years now. Batteries are still good... and come with a 2000 charge or 5 year battery warranty.

Oops!.....Don't forget about HILTI's cordless line......there definetely top notch.
Hilti's cordless tools ARE top notch. They are the first company to offer a cordless T6... First ever 36V drill... SWEET!
Tough. They just don't have all the fancy features that some of the companies offer. Just a good, tough drill.

No matter what you decide to get, don't get it at the lowest-priced online outfit. Warranty may be an issue and 1). they may be out of business next week and 2). they'll require you to ship it somewhere for 6-8 weeks.
I understand. I get my cordless tools at Sears or HD. Why? Warranty issues. They are really easy to get a replacement set WITHOUT cash out of your pocket.

Isn't Millwalkee owned by Ryobi now?Roger
YES! And that sucks, since I own Milwaukee tools!

don't buy dewalt from home cheapo or blowe's. They use plastic parts in their drill that they sell at those stores - go to grainger or a store like that to buy dewalt - they are more expensive for a reason.
This is not entirely true. HD & Lowes have multiple versions of tools. They carry home owner grades and contractor grades. If you want to compare, you need to compare kit to kit... model # to model #. Yes, some of the drills (even Dewalt) have plastic gears... but the contractor versions do not.
Besides, $28 at a tool doctor, and 4 minutes of your time... you can have a new transmission installed (or do it yourself... it took me 8 minutes my first time!)

I've probably dissected a dozen dead drills from the major drill brands - Dewalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Ryobi. They ALL have metal gears for all three stages of reduction. They ALL use name brand electric motors - mostly Johnson. Some brands use the exact same motor as their competitors do - maybe the windings are different. There are only two major manufacturers of Lithium batteries in the world, so chances are these are all the same as well. Quality engineering on a drill is not really rocket science, so I doubt there are major differences there. They all have similar support and warranties.

Bottom line - If the specs on various brands are similar, chances are they are 97% the same between brands. Buy whatever brand is on sale that week, or has the hot poster girls, or whose color matches your tool box. Any difference you perceive in quality between brands is probably illusory.
This does make sense.

Now, some input from me:

Have you considered Sears? Craftsman is a well known name brand. I don't know who is making their drills now. It used to be B&D. However, Craftsman drills are pretty cheap, and you can buy an extended warranty.
Overall, they are a pretty good drill... and my buddy bought the warranty... the extended warranty will cover it if you knock your drill off a 30' lift, it splits into 30 pieces...
You bring it back in pieces, and they give you a new drill!
You can't beat a warranty like that!

When my Milwaukee 28V set finally dies, I'm going to Sears. You see, Craftsman is really a good name. No one on the jobsite has their stuff (hand tools or electric) which helps with theft reduction, and the person behind the sales counter is NOT ALLOWED TO ASK why you are bringing your broken tool in... even when there are electrical marks all over it!

Have a great day!
 

MarkyMarkNC

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Raleigh NC
Have you considered Sears? Craftsman is a well known name brand. I don't know who is making their drills now. It used to be B&D. However, Craftsman drills are pretty cheap, and you can buy an extended warranty.
Overall, they are a pretty good drill... and my buddy bought the warranty... the extended warranty will cover it if you knock your drill off a 30' lift, it splits into 30 pieces...
You bring it back in pieces, and they give you a new drill!
You can't beat a warranty like that!

When my Milwaukee 28V set finally dies, I'm going to Sears. You see, Craftsman is really a good name. No one on the jobsite has their stuff (hand tools or electric) which helps with theft reduction, and the person behind the sales counter is NOT ALLOWED TO ASK why you are bringing your broken tool in... even when there are electrical marks all over it!

Have a great day!

The Craftsman drills sometimes have plastic gears on one stage of the planetary gears - sometimes not. Usually the batteries are lower amp hour cells. Other than that, they seem to be similar quality to the Dewalt, Milwaukee, etc. The only reason I would not buy one personally is that I have not seen any that have a 1/2" chuck.
 

Rewire

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We have dewalt 18v on all our trucks they are good solid tools.The biggest headace is a guy has six batterys and not one charged.I set up a charging station in the shop and purchased additional batteries now everyone is required to take at least one fresh battery and put a dead one in the charger.
 

c2500

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South Carolina
I have been using Dewalt for years. Since I am hooked into their batteries, I have alot of their tools. I also have a service center 3 miles from my house. I went to Dewalt when my craftsman died and Sears had no batteries.

If you buy the XRP labeled tools, they are very heavy duty. I have had excellent luck with them. Now, I also have some non-XRP and they hold up ok...you just can't use them all the time. Specifically, the right angle drill. I have 2 that I alternate so I don't do any more damage (have melted some of the armature in one I think as it jingles when I shake it).

I have some 12 and 14.4 drills and impacts...they were on closeout so I could not go wrong with them money wise. Also, the 12 volt is lighter than the others...but no where near as powerful.

I did buy a Lithium Ion drill with 2 batteries. I am not impressed with them. The price was high, and the thing you gain is a weight savings and an odd fitting battery. The Lithiums will work with most tools (except one's with chargers built in) but the smaller battery looks odd. Also, they just die. I prefer the gradual slowdown the NiCad's have. Dewalt has not cut their prices to be competitive in the Lithium field.

As for the NiCads, they have a 2 year warranty (XRP's). I had to do a big replacement in 2005-2006 because of multiple battery failures. I have had good luck with the newer yellow topped batteries (XRP). None have gone bad..yet..and they are 2-4 years old. I started keeping them in chargers and rotatng mine through every few weeks and have found better life spans than just letting them sit. I have some 12 volts that are 7 and 8 years old still going strong with occasional use. (As I am also a builder, i do have times when the battery operated tools sit around unused).


I have a friend with Rigid, and while they will replace the batteries for life, he has had some issues with the tools and batteries. They are ultimately Ryobi.

I have another friend with Makita drills, and he seems happy with them. (He owns a cabinet shop)

I recently bought the Milwalkee 12volt Lithium camera and it came with a small drill driver. I love the camera and I love the driver so far...but it is too early to tell on battery longevity.

My 2 cents worth anyway.

c2500
 
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