ccelec87
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What is a quality cctv package for a small business?
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What kind of business?
What is the intended uses? (owner remote view on computer or cell phone, Public View Monitor deterrent, motion in picture tripping alarm/email, see in the dark or low light)
What do they intend to protect?
What kind of money do they have???
GUNNING
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That is the real question. How much have they budgeted? Do they want a game camera set up or a TSA know what brand of underwear they have on kind of system.
A decent system starts at $500 for equipment for a couple of cameras, DVR and monitor. That is no name low end equipment and does not include markup, labor, setup, internet ....
Need more specifics to get a real price. There is some really neat stuff out there, Smoke detector cameras, clock cameras, pinhole cameras, lapel cameras, remote control cameras, HD cameras, bomb proof cameras, etc.
It comes down to how much, and what where.
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That is the real question. How much have they budgeted? Do they want a game camera set up or a TSA know what brand of underwear they have on kind of system.
A decent system starts at $500 for equipment for a couple of cameras, DVR and monitor. That is no name low end equipment and does not include markup, labor, setup, internet ....
Need more specifics to get a real price. There is some really neat stuff out there, Smoke detector cameras, clock cameras, pinhole cameras, lapel cameras, remote control cameras, HD cameras, bomb proof cameras, etc.
It comes down to how much, and what where.
$500 wont even get the monitor! I wont do 'budget' vga monitors from Wallyworld, customer must provide. If they want a cost savings, it's remote view only, no tech support beyond the initial set up.
And don't get me started on DCHP! Some DDNS is ok, but I'm done doing new systems on DCHP. No one wants to pay for the callbacks when it's shown not to be a warranty issue, after they reset, replace a router or power is down for a day.
As with most materials the internet has misled folks to think CCTV is cheap and easy to do
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Your right CCTV is not cheap or easy to do. A mom and pop store that needs a CCTV system can get one in a box and get the nephew to put it in. To do anything bigger or more elaborate the cost goes up. Even the ones in a box are not that useful. You know that by watching the news at night. Grainy pictures of kids in hoodies with really big guns. A camera is not going to stop this nor dissuade the miscreant to go away. It might even give a false sense of security. I saw a house the other day with BIG yellow smiley face signs that said "smile you are on camera!" next to each camera. Now that worked. Made me think twice about where I was and I was just driving by.
In a small setup I would get a monitor and set it up behind the register pointing it at the counter. Then put cameras around the store. Move them around every so often. You almost wouldn't need a DVR. This would be a good preventive measure. To go the other way and put remote control HD cameras on everything would be expensive but if the potential loss is big enough would be a business decision. ($cost-chaching$)
People are generally honest. If they think they are being watched it reinforces their self righteous moral behaviors. If they are 16 and have a hoodie and a Glock all bets are off.
Prevention still works. Even faux cameras make a point. Gets people thinking. If you are in a war zone then make the signs more understandable with bright colors and less wordy pictures. There is liability with surveillance. Need signage for notification and make sure you keep them out of the restrooms, changing rooms other peoples private property. Anywhere there is an assumption of privacy.
Getting a picture of the the culprit and getting arrested for it is a bummer. :roll:
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Your right CCTV is not cheap or easy to do. A mom and pop store that needs a CCTV system can get one in a box and get the nephew to put it in. To do anything bigger or more elaborate the cost goes up. Even the ones in a box are not that useful. You know that by watching the news at night. Grainy pictures of kids in hoodies with really big guns. A camera is not going to stop this nor dissuade the miscreant to go away. It might even give a false sense of security. I saw a house the other day with BIG yellow smiley face signs that said "smile you are on camera!" next to each camera. Now that worked. Made me think twice about where I was and I was just driving by.
In a small setup I would get a monitor and set it up behind the register pointing it at the counter. Then put cameras around the store. Move them around every so often. You almost wouldn't need a DVR. This would be a good preventive measure. To go the other way and put remote control HD cameras on everything would be expensive but if the potential loss is big enough would be a business decision. ($cost-chaching$)
People are generally honest. If they think they are being watched it reinforces their self righteous moral behaviors. If they are 16 and have a hoodie and a Glock all bets are off.
Prevention still works. Even faux cameras make a point. Gets people thinking. If you are in a war zone then make the signs more understandable with bright colors and less wordy pictures. There is liability with surveillance. Need signage for notification and make sure you keep them out of the restrooms, changing rooms other peoples private property. Anywhere there is an assumption of privacy.
Getting a picture of the the culprit and getting arrested for it is a bummer. :roll:
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I agree, PVMs are the best deterrent. It's quite costly though. Seeing yourself on camera creates a psychological condition causing guilt and remorse for future actions. And it deters the casual thief. You need to have a large potential loss concentrated in one area for it to be most effective like a specific aisle.
Retail theft rings are not deterred by much though, the mob thefts are crazy!!
IP cameras are worth it for any customer with multiple sites, to catch recurrent offenders over multiple sites. Plus you can make iD's on problem employee theft when it's subversive. You have to be willing to explain what the capabilities are and scare straight those skimming cash drawers.
Armed robbery is always a special concern, unless you get a head on face shot its just a blurry hoodie and an urinating cashier (justifiably so).
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